[cosmicrescend0]

I do want to mention something that's been bothering me for a while: in this day and age, why would Bandai go for a belt that such a large cast (5+) all use?

-It's not like it hasn't been done before, of course. Even tho some Riders upgrade (or switch back and forth) to other Drivers, well over half of Gaim's cast use the Sengoku Driver, but that's pretty much the last time that's happened? We're sure to get a in-universe explaination(all riders are part of the same faction or whatever), but what's the mindset of those toymakers making it?

For the consumer, it feels like a no-brainer: the average household will probably only buy a single DX Driver (the protag's). Having a driver compatible with roughly 70% of the cast will probably encourage said average household to buy more gimmicks, since the driver's compatible with all of that, right? But like.....that doesn't feel right?

Pardon me, I'm not too familar with the toy side of the franchise (I don't collect anything and I don't plan to anytime soon), but...Rider seems like a brand acutely aware of its older collectors and always trying to find ways to squeeze some coin out of them, no? Under the assumption that Geats will end with 9-12 Riders (roughly the average now these days), having more than 3+ Riders share the same belt seems like one is actively trying to avoid making an extra buck..

Who knows what the future holds, though. Maybe half the cast switches to a new belt later on, maybe everything we know about the Driver is made up, perhaps Bandai already has a way to maximize the shit out of the new gimmick in terms of profit. It just seems kinda strange to me,,

[PortalTron]

[QUOTE=cosmicrescend0;833574]I do want to mention something that's been bothering me for a while: in this day and age, why would Bandai go for a belt that such a large cast (5+) all use? /QUOTE]

In all honesty, it's a pretty logical move. From what I gather, Revice's First Quarter did about the same as Saber in terms of Sales. Keeping in mind that Saber had one belt + four weapons that doubled as transformation items, whereas Revice had two belts (I am not sure if belts for Pre-order on Premium Bandai are counted toward Q1 Sales), It seems that it doesn't matter too much how many belts there are in terms of sales (again, it's a bit hard to pinpoint, given that they never show what items were most popular).

It makes a lot of sense in these times, that they make a way to downsize the amount of belts, while keeping each Rider "Unique" in regards to their belt. While the rumors are still yet to be confirmed, the idea that the belt is customizable to each rider makes a bit more sense than releasing a belt per one or two riders. Again, I am not sure what the details of past sales are, but given that Bandai seems to be trying new ideas each year when it comes to the belts, I don't find the idea of a belt that can be customized per rider too crazy.

[Annuga]

I believe the conference is supposed to be this week according to the Ganbarizing card thing, how many days in advance do we learn about this usually? I forget

[cosmicrescend0]

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I believe the conference is supposed to be this week according to the Ganbarizing card thing, how many days in advance do we learn about this usually? I forget

Should be less than a week, at most. Revice's conference was announced 5 days in advance, Saber's 2 days in advance, cant find when 01's was announced but most likely around the same 2-5 day span. If we're getting the conference before the Ganbarizing reveal they'd have to announce it today/tomorrow at the earliest for the 5-day gap. (Revice posted their announcement for it at 1AM EST, so keep that in mind)

Edit: If not today/tommorow, the recent rumors estimate the conference to be 27th, which would at the earliest be announced when BF drops(22nd), which feels a smidge bit unlikely? Maybe an announcement on the 24th, but still.....

[TheJaz]

I will say the rumoured belt system is actually very close to what I've wanted them to do for years, which is a singular modular belt for every rider.

From a toy perspective it seems like with saber vs revice having more q1 toys didn't equal more total sales for saber, which also means from a manufacturer perspective saber likely made less money per transformation device than revice did in their respective first quarters

I'd also assume that with a modular belt system they will charge A LOT for the "starter set" for each rider, a set with like a face plate and one gimmick item I bet they'd be willing to sell for like 30-50ish bucks tbh

It also sort of creates a sunk cost effect where if you already bought the really expensive base belt, you might as well get the relatively cheaper packs for each rider to "get your money's worth"

Tbh from a sales stand point I think this has the potential to make them a lot of money, but I also think it'll live and die on how good the characters are, since most people aren't gonna buy sets for riders they don't like lol

EDIT: I do still bet we'll get a bunch of p-bandai belts aimed at adult collectors regardless

[TF RyuShin]

IIRC, I will try to list the date of the press conference with the usual Summer Movie because that's usually where we got glimpse of our new Rider:

Revice : PC on July 27, 2021 but Superhero Senki already aired earlier on July 22, 2021
Saber : PC on July 29, 2020 but no Summer Movie for Zero One this time. The date actually a bit close with Revice.
Zero One : PC on July 17, 2019 and Over Quartzer aired on July 26, 2020. This is the latest instance where we got PC first before the new Rider debut in Summer Movie
Zi-O : PC on Aug 7, 2018 and Be The One aired on Aug 4, 2018. The PC was a bit latter from the Summer Movie.
Build : PC on Aug 1, 2017 and True Ending aired on Aug 7, 2017. This time the PC was earlier than the Summer Movie.

Considering this, I think we can roughly estimate if we don't get any info on Geats this week, it's most likely by next week they will announce the PC. It's most likely they won't reveal any info closer to Battle Familia because it might kill the movie's hype.

[cosmicrescend0]

Heads up: we've got word of Geats' cameo in Battle Familia!

Similar to how Zero-One's cameo in Over Quartzer mostly involves a post-credits scene where he wipes up the remaining evil Riders, the post-credits of Battle Familia involve Chimera and Geats working together to finish off Azuma and Shikku once and for all. Some details:

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Black suit, white sheathing with red scarves and accents. Fox mask on helmet (apparently you can even see mask straps on it) Voice is disguised in a similar way to Meteor's early-bird cameo. Has a fast paced gunslinger fighting style: uses a sniper attack, a second gun, a flamethrower. Their finisher can pin the enemy to the ground, which allows Chimera and Geats to double Rider kick the two in order to defeat them.

And apparently, Geats also shows up in Shin Hatsukoi Hero???? Geats shows off the Revi and Vice Avataro Gears, but the Donbros don't use them. (apparently Geats never even meets them?) If I had to guess, the joke about "Leave the hero work to the Kamen Riders!" from the trailer is more than a joke: Geats will appear and defeat some enemy while the Donbros are busy filming their movie.

[Mesnick]

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Heads up: we've got word of Geats' cameo in Battle Familia!

So we'll get a shooter rider as the main one? Hmm, and there are more and more similarities with the Wizard. Well, the cameos are cool, but I'm sorry he won't get to meet Revi and Vice. Although, this will probably be saved for the last episode of Revice.

[joedragon72]

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Heads up: we've got word of Geats' cameo in Battle Familia!

Where can we see that cameo?

[TheJaz]

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Where can we see that cameo?

Movie's not officialy out yet (will be in like 2 days), this description is from someone who alledges to have seen an early screening

Plus Japan has really strict piracy laws so we don't even always get cam footage from the films (I remember Zi-O's cameo showed up on bilibili but toei was getting every leak video taken down super fast on most sites)

Earliest we could see a photo or some cam footage would probably be the 22nd or later (and as I mentioned whether we get any at all is up in the air)

Its interesting that this is another rumour that lines up with the recent "leaked" suit, black suit, white armor... so either that photo is legit, it's a weird coincidence, or some rumour mongers are really latching onto the same fake pic