[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Wolfexia

Well I have been finishing hibiki as well as starting kuuga and starting wizard over also hellsing and shinkenger slip in thereXD

Don't believe the hype with Kuuga.
And don't believe the hate with Wizard.

[SPLIT LIP]

Believe the hate with Wizard. You have to believe. Believe in the magic. The magic that makes a terrible, terrible show.

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Originally Posted by Locke

Black Seven was another fantastic episode and yet...not. What is with the pacing in this show? I love a good 'shit got real' episode but the stuff with Battle Hopper sacrificing his life and the relief in Kotaro when he turns out to be okay suggests some deep friendship that we've never seen.

Well, Battle Hopper rescued him from Golgom. I don't know if that's shown in that eisode or the next. They're pretty much bros. Battle Hopper's like a big dog.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Really? I thought the movie was average at best.

And I thought it was dreck. Pure waste of time about a character nobody cares about and a plot about as half-assed as they come.

Again, that blue-hair prune-faced loser gets a movie all to himself, but not Skull? The guy who ABSOLUTELY DESERVES A MOVIE TO HIMSELF?

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Believe the hate with Wizard. You have to believe. Believe in the magic. The magic that makes a terrible, terrible show.

Well, Battle Hopper rescued him from Golgom. I don't know if that's shown in that eisode or the next. They're pretty much bros. Battle Hopper's like a big dog.

The thing that annoys me about Wizard's critics is that I'm the first to admit Wizard's problems, the filler, general poor pacing, boring villains, wasted upgrades, waste of side characters etc etc but you find these problems in basically...every other Toku series ever. Why are people so harsh on Wizard and yet happily gargle the cocks of OOO and Kuuga despite having all of Wizard's problems and some unique ones of their own?

I give it to you on OOO, it had some great characters but there is no way you can act like it had anything else over Wizard. Same with Kuuga, Godai is the same character throughout the whole series yet the fandom dubs him 'one of the greatest Riders of all time' but Haruto is boring?!?! Whether you like him or not he has at least had character arcs and growth.

I guess Wizard is too mainstream right now, give it ten years when it's no longer airing and people will be calling it 'The Greatest Rider Series of a Generation'

I know Battle Hopper rescued Kotaro but they haven't spent any other screentime together aside from Kotaro just shouting his name and using him for his Rider kick. And considering the show doesn't find the idea of a talking, sentient, regenerating motorcycle ridiculous I don't understand why they haven't shared more heart to heart scenes together. I love the concept, I just think it's poorly realised which is odd for Black because everything else usually gets all the time it needs to play out.

[ZeoRangerV]

Yes every series has its flaws, but if a series can still remain enjoyable despite having them then its easier to overlook.

Many people, myself included, simply aren't enjoying Wizard all that much. Critically speaking its easy to poke holes in every series, but enjoyment is always going to be the determining factor.

Besides, I don't think Haruto has had all that much growth aside from "New power up. Now stronger."

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

Yes every series has its flaws, but if a series can still remain enjoyable despite having them then its easier to overlook.

Many people, myself included, simply aren't enjoying Wizard all that much. Critically speaking its easy to poke holes in every series, but enjoyment is always going to be the determining factor.

Besides, I don't think Haruto has had all that much growth aside from "New power up. Now stronger."

I don't understand why people aren't enjoying it, but then I can't understand why people hate Haruto either so I guess it is something I will never understand. I think Wizard has some fantastic action that gets me through the shittier arcs.

Whether you want to accept Haruto is a deep and layered character or not, he has at least had a backstory and episodes focused around him, Godai had neither. And even when he sorta did, like when he died, five minutes later he's giving the same stupid thumbs up and being completley disconnected from all the Rider stuff.

[Matrixbeast]

I find it ironic that you're saying Wizard is too mainstream to be liked when you decry the most popular series (Thus, the "Mainstream" thing to like) as bad or extremely flawed.
In the end, we're all hipsters for even liking Henshin Hero shows unironically

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

I don't understand why people aren't enjoying it.

Because there's nothing TO enjoy. None of the characters are any real fun to watch, none of the action (while perfectly fine) is that incredible. The story has nothing amazing to it. There's no hook. There's nothing that takes us in and makes us want to watch and accept all the other bad stuff. There's no memorable characters, no really unique, deep story, not even the suits are all that interesting. They're all, even the bad guys, just bland to look at on screen. Not even bad, just bland.

There's literally nothing Wizard gives us that a past series doesn't give us more of. It's completely vanilla in every way and that REALLY makes the flaws apparent. There's no hyper-charrismatic lead to carry it, no interesting premise like a mirror world, half-and-half rider, floating arm made of medals or train full of crazy monsters, no badass suits or incredible action, even the belt is boring. (and sounds awful) It's a good guy fighting generic villains and everything is textbook first step to making Kamen Rider.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I find it ironic that you're saying Wizard is too mainstream to be liked when you decry the most popular series (Thus, the "Mainstream" thing to like) as bad or extremely flawed.
In the end, we're all hipsters for even liking Henshin Hero shows unironically

Sir, I take offense at that. My fedora, thick-rimmed glass, PBR, and I are out of here.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Sir, I take offense at that. My fedora, thick-rimmed glass, PBR, and I are out of here.

PBR?

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

PBR?

Pabst Blue Ribbon. The beer of hipsters.