[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Huh? People are saying eating the fruit turns you into an Invess? I must have missed that. I watched the entire episode and the only part that suggests it is the factory guy at the beginning.

It doesn't just suggest that, it rather heavy-handedly implied, what with the monster being covered in the exact same clothes as the worker.

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I don't know how this really changes anything besides your perspective of what would have happened to the people if they ate the Helihem fruit.

It means Gaim's been murdering innocent people?

[Den-O]

I knew the invess/human thing would pan out. It adds the deep dark layer to this show Urobutchi has teased in the past. Now for Gaim to find out what he's been doing to people

[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

It doesn't just suggest that, it rather heavy-handedly implied, what with the monster being covered in the exact same clothes as the worker.

It means Gaim's been murdering innocent people?

Kind of like how Kamen Rider Wizard murders innocent dead people (AKA Phantoms)?

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Kind of like how Kamen Rider Wizard murders innocent dead people (AKA Phantoms)?

Yeah not really. The Phantoms weren't those people anymore. Phantoms lived inside humans with magical potential until they fell into such deep despair that the human dies. This leaves their body as a dead husk for Phantoms to inhabit and walk among humans. They aren't human at all at that point, just pretending to be.

Invess are literally poor unsuspecting humans who've eaten Helheim fruit and become the monsters.They're still deep down in there. So this is an entirely different thing. People who've been mutated into creatures with only the most basic of urges. Whereas Phantoms were completely independent thinking creatures with wills of their own. It's monsters that replace humans entirely vs humans who are forced into becoming mindless creatures.

[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Yeah not really. The Phantoms weren't those people anymore. Phantoms lived inside humans with magical potential until they fell into such deep despair that the human dies. This leaves their body as a dead husk for Phantoms to inhabit and walk among humans. They aren't human at all at that point, just pretending to be.

Invess are literally poor unsuspecting humans who've eaten Helheim fruit and become the monsters.They're still deep down in there. So this is an entirely different thing. People who've been mutated into creatures with only the most basic of urges. Whereas Phantoms were completely independent thinking creatures with wills of their own. It's monsters that replace humans entirely vs humans who are forced into becoming mindless creatures.

Thanks.

i just looked up Helheim in norse mythology and its the land of the dead. So now I believe you guys.

[Shinken Red]

Very funny and very good. Glad to be getting somewhere with the story. Cant wait for next week.

[KyoryuGreen]

Absolutely loved this episode, Micchy is so intelligent and awesome. Loved Kouta and that the series is moving on to becoming more Kamen Rider-ish. Great to see both Kouta and Micchy's reactions to Zangetsu. Also great to see more of Yggdrasil.

[MidoGreen]

So, is Wil. E Coyote writing for this show on the side? First we have Kouta driving off the cliff, now we have "Free Bird Seed" esque trap with the fruit while they hide in the garbage cans and bushes. I can't complain, I love this stuff . And I'm digging the twist the the more advanced Invess are people who ate the fruit.

[Thessair]

Gaim continues to grow on me. I love how the balance of goofy and serious has been handled so far and it helps the series entertain on several levels. But, as awesome as the episode was, the brief snippet of Date Akira in the movie scenes at the end was the icing on the cake for me. (Also, seeing Ryu and Akiko was nice, too.) The film might well be awful, but returning characters outside of suits makes me stupidly happy.