[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by ljacone

I don't remember KRDK not having music... It had a really cool battle theme IIRC. And didn't Ryuki have a similar deus ex machina at the end to "fix" everything as well?

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Originally Posted by Locke

. I never really noticed the lack of sound effects and music, they don't really make much of a difference to my experience.

It's not that the music and effects weren't there, it's just that they were so quiet you could barely hear them over the dialog. Locke, you might not say it doesn't make a difference, but for me, it does. I am an audiophile. Music and sound effects can make or break something for me. If it has music that does not fit the scene, or no music at all, I have a hard time getting into it. It's also one of the reasons I consider Samurai Jack to be one of the top 10 greatest American cartoons of all time. That show was just amazing in what it did in sound design.

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And yeah the ending was a bit of a cop out admittedly but you have to remember that American and Japanese censorship is very different and we were lucky to have the Rider's deal with death and the weight of that at all.

I'm not saying that that makes it okay but coming into an American show expecting all the gore, swearing and general adult content from a Japanese show is just a fool's errand from the beginning.

I'm not expecting it to have gore and stuff, I just want it to not feel like a cop out. Had it been well written, I might have felt it worked. However, it was not, so it did not work for me. They were using the term vented and making it sound like that was it. Having it turn out to just be a hospital was lame and makes the threat of doom pointless. Pretty much it meant any rider was immortal because if they got hurt, they would just go to the hospital to recover. There was no death involved EVER.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I'm not expecting it to have gore and stuff, I just want it to not feel like a cop out. Had it been well written, I might have felt it worked. However, it was not, so it did not work for me. They were using the term vented and making it sound like that was it. Having it turn out to just be a hospital was lame and makes the threat of doom pointless. Pretty much it meant any rider was immortal because if they got hurt, they would just go to the hospital to recover. There was no death involved EVER.

It really wasn't that far removed from many religions concept of the after life really so yeah it was a bit of a cop out but I think given what they were battling against every step of the way (seriously if you read any interviews these guys went through hell to try and tell the story they wanted to tell) it could have been a whole lot worse.

And Japanese shows are just as likely to cop out of death. Godai died but then they basically retconned it by near enough saying 'he is just sleeping' and Gen was brought back literally by the power of friendship and neither of these shows had soccer mum's banging down the doors so they actually thought this was good storytelling.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by ljacone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_...d_Jackie_Hawks

Man, child actors...
I didn't expect that.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Locke

And Japanese shows are just as likely to cop out of death. Godai died but then they basically retconned it by near enough saying 'he is just sleeping' and Gen was brought back literally by the power of friendship and neither of these shows had soccer mum's banging down the doors so they actually thought this was good storytelling.

But those were instances when it was written well enough to be believable.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

But those were instances when it was written well enough to be believable.

Speak for yourself, I thought both instances were absolute shit. Godai's death was brilliantly handled, his return...wasn't. And the fact that Fourze was written in response to a terrible disaster a message like 'if you care enough you can bring people back from the dead' is disgustingly insulting considering kids watching this had probably lost their families.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Locke

. And the fact that Fourze was written in response to a terrible disaster a message like 'if you care enough you can bring people back from the dead' is disgustingly insulting considering kids watching this had probably lost their families.

Um... okay. THis is the first I have heard of this.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Um... okay. THis is the first I have heard of this.

And that is why I have a problem with that scene in its entirety.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Um... okay. THis is the first I have heard of this.

Fourze was intentionally written to be lighthearted and fun after the 2011 earthquake and typhoon that struck Japan months earlier.

[Locke]

So I watched episode 3 of Mighty Morphin, I thought Kimberly was meant to be a douche why does she now care about saving the environment? And I knew Megaforce had a lot of obvious nods to the series that I could pick up for nostalgia reasons but I didn't realise it lifted entire plots.

Also Zordon is a fucking douche, I get why he tells them not to immediately use their Power Morphers but they take that rule so literally and so to heart they are literally getting kicked around the floor before they decide to morph. But then in other scenes they just morph immediately. I'm going to assume this is 100% sentai limitations but it just makes Zordon look like an ass and like the Rangers cant take any initiative.

The footage was really badly handled anyway. Zordon said something about Power Weapons then suddenly they were all fighting in their Zords, Jason commands them go use the full power Megazord then Alpha says they have no options left before they've even transformed the Megazord into full power mode and Zordon pulls them back to base to which the Rangers don't argue. Also Billy's weapon is a power of 'great rage'...err...? And Trini's is 'as true as arrows'...the fuck?

Btw Zack is awesome, sure he is a caricature of a black person but it's gloriously bad as he teaches the robot the laws of swag. And repeatedly facepalms as if he knows just how shit this all is.

[GoseiWonder]

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Originally Posted by Locke

So I watched episode 3 of Mighty Morphin, I thought Kimberly was meant to be a douche why does she now care about saving the environment? And I knew Megaforce had a lot of obvious nods to the series that I could pick up for nostalgia reasons but I didn't realise it lifted entire plots.

Also Zordon is a fucking douche, I get why he tells them not to immediately use their Power Morphers but they take that rule so literally and so to heart they are literally getting kicked around the floor before they decide to morph. But then in other scenes they just morph immediately. I'm going to assume this is 100% sentai limitations but it just makes Zordon look like an ass and like the Rangers cant take any initiative.

The footage was really badly handled anyway. Zordon said something about Power Weapons then suddenly they were all fighting in their Zords, Jason commands them go use the full power Megazord then Alpha says they have no options left before they've even transformed the Megazord into full power mode and Zordon pulls them back to base to which the Rangers don't argue. Also Billy's weapon is a power of 'great rage'...err...? And Trini's is 'as true as arrows'...the fuck?

Btw Zack is awesome, sure he is a caricature of a black person but it's gloriously bad as he teaches the robot the laws of swag. And repeatedly facepalms as if he knows just how shit this all is.

And thus, Alpha 6 was programmed.