[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Glad to hear Ryuki is worth finishing, now what do you guys have to say about Faiz without spoilers.

Faiz is... problematic. The concept is good and the suits and action are great. It's the characters and plot where things fall down. Faiz is where Toshiki Inoue get most of his negative reputation. The show is deeply swamped in melodrama and the characters cannot hold an open conversation about anything to save their lives (literally, in several cases). Much of the plot hinges on characters being needlessly reluctant to explain anything. The show also really suffers from the secondary Rider, who's Inoue's classic "unlikeable douchebag hero" dialed up to 11. He's a completely detestable character but he just keeps getting away with whatever shit he wants to. The plot is also full of holes and completely falls apart at the end.

It's a show that's worth watching, but don't go in with much in the way of expectations.

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

Why doesn't this guy get any love?

Because he's shit. Worst main Rider ever.

[uchihabro77]

And I just finished Den-O. This was a great series, and I think Ryotarou might take Eiji's place as my favorite Rider. He grew more than Eiji did in my opinion. But man this was a great ending. Still have no idea what the hell purpose Kai served, but the fact that Airi has apperantly remembered this whole time is cool. And now to watch the Trilogy movies

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by uchihabro77

And now to watch the Trilogy movies

Not yet. Watch Final Countdown first, since the trilogy is about New Den-O, Kotaro Nogami, who debuts in Saraba Kamen Rider Den-O: Final Countdown

[uchihabro77]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Not yet. Watch Final Countdown first, since the trilogy is about New Den-O, Kotaro Nogami, who debuts in Saraba Kamen Rider Den-O: Final Countdown

Is that why the guy playing Ryotarou in Red is different?

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by uchihabro77

Is that why the guy playing Ryotarou in Red is different?

No, that's because Takeru Satoh moved on to bigger and more prestigious projects.

[EnerPrime]

Starting in the Den-O and (about 5 minutes of) Decade movie, Ryotaro starts being played by the kid who was young Ryotaro in the new Den-O movies because his original actor wanted to move on to other things.

Additionally, only one of the Trilogy movies is about New Den-O. Episode Blue is New Den-O, Episode Red is about Zeronos and Episode Yellow is about Diend (from Decade). But it is better to watch The Final Countdown before the Trilogy movies.

[uchihabro77]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

No, that's because Takeru Satoh moved on to bigger and more prestigious projects.

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Originally Posted by EnerPrime

Starting in the Den-O and (about 5 minutes of) Decade movie, Ryotaro starts being played by the kid who was young Ryotaro in the new Den-O movies because his original actor wanted to move on to other things.

Additionally, only one of the Trilogy movies is about New Den-O. Episode Blue is New Den-O, Episode Red is about Zeronos and Episode Yellow is about Diend (from Decade). But it is better to watch The Final Countdown before the Trilogy movies.

This series has to be the confusing dang series Ive ever watched

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Glad to hear Ryuki is worth finishing, now what do you guys have to say about Faiz without spoilers.

Declare episode 40 the series finale and ignore the last 10 episodes. Trust me, you will have no answers by the end of 40, but you will have 500 new questions to go with the no answers by the end of episode 50.

Lucker Clover is the best thing to happen in 555.

It's kind of like Hibiki, but less painful.

To Locke, yes, the Ryuki ending does the reset button the Japanese love to do, but that still does not mean the series was pointless. In fact, I'm more disappointed with the ending now than I was ten years ago because I did not know how much that ending is used in Japanese shows at the time.

BTW, not related to shows, but I ordered the OOO belt an coin pack from AmiAmi earlier. I cannot wait to get it.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

I know I ask this all the time, but I never get a solid answer: is Ryuki's movie (episode final) worth checking out? Is it good? Does it have a better ending? Does it do anything worth seeing?

Hahahahahahah. Episode Final is awesome (the best rider movie until the OOO/Fourze movie), but yeaaaaaaaaaaah, the ending is...

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Wataru gets no love because he's just boring to watch. Simple as that. He's a dull character. We've had whimpy protagonists (Den-O), we've had protagonists who were unsure of their ability (Ryuki), we've had protagonists who was unsure if their resolve was enough to solve their problems (Blade).

Wataru is just boring.

And I'd say check out the Ryuki movies. They're not all that long, and you'll get to see the 3 remaining riders in action.

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Because he's shit. Worst main Rider ever.

Sure, if you forget about all of the development he had during the series that turned him into a hero by the end.

Don't believe the Wataru haters out there. He has some of the strongest development out of any of the riders, especially since Agito, as he goes from a whimp that hates who he is into a man who wants to protect those around him. He grows as a character, which is something ALL series should be doing. He is not an asshole like Decade. He is not an idiot like Shinji. He is just a shut in who learns to be outgoing. In fact, Kiva is completely full of great character development for nearly every main character. There are some issues plot wise, but the characters more than make up for it.

[Matrixbeast]

I find it funny since I'm one of the ones who defended Kiva and was willing to stick up for the series as a whole. Now I'm labeled as a hater.

But there is no excusing Wataru. I found him dull to watch. He and Haruto are two examples of extremes. Where Haruto grew and evolved so slowly it was difficult to notice and hard to tell, Wataru just...Changed. One episode he was crying in his tub like a bitch, the next he was suddenly more of a man than King and didn't take shit from no one.

It was jarring, it was contrived, it was boring.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Don't believe the Wataru haters out there. He has some of the strongest development out of any of the riders, especially since Agito, as he goes from a whimp that hates who he is into a man who wants to protect those around him. He grows as a character, which is something ALL series should be doing. He is not an asshole like Decade. He is not an idiot like Shinji. He is just a shut in who learns to be outgoing. In fact, Kiva is completely full of great character development for nearly every main character. There are some issues plot wise, but the characters more than make up for it.

No, believe us. He's terrible from beginning to end.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I find it funny since I'm one of the ones who defended Kiva and was willing to stick up for the series as a whole. Now I'm labeled as a hater.

But there is no excusing Wataru. I found him dull to watch. He and Haruto are two examples of extremes. Where Haruto grew and evolved so slowly it was difficult to notice and hard to tell, Wataru just...Changed. One episode he was crying in his tub like a bitch, the next he was suddenly more of a man than King and didn't take shit from no one.

It was jarring, it was contrived, it was boring.

Also this.