[Powerman293]

Its not a deal breaker for me yet, but the way the Drivers work. Kamen Rider is naturally grounded in Sci-fi, so explaining a basic system of how the belts work is always necessary for a Rider series, at least in my opinion.

It was set up so well at the beginning with explaining the classes of the lockseeds and summoning and jailbreaking the Invess and what not. But then the Genesis core fucks it up. Wait, so an older Driver with an add-on piece for a lockseed not conceived while this was made, can get better powers out of it then the Genesis driver and energy lockseeds together? (Which may I mind you, genesis driver and energy locks were made for each other!!!!) If the Energy Riders had powers correspondent to those of the Jinba forms (I.e. super speed for Sigurd, sensitivity for Marikia, super defense for Shin Zengetsu and strength for Duke), I'd be fine with it. But hell no. Let's just have 4 suits have the same powers but visually look different.

Kachidoki bothers me too, as its more powerful then the energy riders yet works in the Sengoku driver. (Its Sagara magic though so I'll wait on that one.)

I mean if Urobochi claims he's such a huge fan of older riders, he should have noticed the logic behind those belts. Kuuga, 4 base and rising forms, perfectly balanced for each situation with an Ultimate mode that drives him off the deep end. Blade, every belt has the same amount of Jack, Queen and King cards, and the manmade belts change the users due to their origins. Gaim? Oh yeah, we have this class system and uh....... look new toys!

Which I find pretty funny considering he's using elements from those 2 shows yet giving less sense on details on the belts then Faiz's gears.

[ShockerCon]

Weird how the Energy Riders and Jinba forms are inverted. The Energy Riders look different but have the same powers, but Jimba forms look about the same and have weird powers that came out of nowhere.

[Locke]

Yeah the random Jinba powers really bugged me, and it wasn't until your post Powerman that I realised that it really does make no sense how people can one up the guy who actually built the Driver. Surely any contingency must be something by his design, and therefore he should know about it already?

[Vraptor140]

In the past I might have said it was all good, but not anymore. After Gaim 26 and 27 Micchi has crossed the line from tolerable to really uncomfortable to watch.

I've never liked characters like him, scheming and despicable, that despite getting setbacks his plans still keep going. I'm really considering on leaving the show for a while until he finally gets to pay for it, then marathon the episodes to get him out of the way as quick as possible.

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah the random Jinba powers really bugged me, and it wasn't until your post Powerman that I realised that it really does make no sense how people can one up the guy who actually built the Driver. Surely any contingency must be something by his design, and therefore he should know about it already?

Did Ryouma build the Genesis Core or did Sagara pull it out of thin air? I honestly don't remember.

If it's the latter, then yeah the guy who can materialise new Lockseeds at will could probably one up the belt designer somehow.

[Kidflashdbn 2]

Mai until last week

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

Did Ryouma build the Genesis Core or did Sagara pull it out of thin air? I honestly don't remember.

If it's the latter, then yeah the guy who can materialise new Lockseeds at will could probably one up the belt designer somehow.

If I remember correctly the Genesis Core was pulled out of thin air, but that only raises further questions as to how a guy can fabricate extensions of a device that was never built to support those extensions. You can't just wire in a toaster into your laptop and expect it to work - well you probably can but it'd require changing the laptop to such an extent you may as well have built something else. Considering how much the actual Driver is part of a plot, weird omissions of logic like this are especially frustrating.

[mook]

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Originally Posted by Locke

If I remember correctly the Genesis Core was pulled out of thin air, but that only raises further questions as to how a guy can fabricate extensions of a device that was never built to support those extensions. You can't just wire in a toaster into your laptop and expect it to work - well you probably can but it'd require changing the laptop to such an extent you may as well have built something else. Considering how much the actual Driver is part of a plot, weird omissions of logic like this are especially frustrating.

That's because Ryouma built the Genesis core. Jinba itself is a prototype which got scrapped after Ryouma made the Genesis driver. If Ryouma didn't make the Genesis core he would have been surprised just like when he saw Kachidoki.

For me the only complaint i have is the cringe-worthy dancing and the fact i don't understand Kaito. What are the chances of his side-story getting translated ?

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by mook

That's because Ryouma built the Genesis core. Jinba itself is a prototype which got scrapped after Ryouma made the Genesis driver. If Ryouma didn't make the Genesis core he would have been surprised just like when he saw Kachidoki.

So if he originally built the core...and the sengoku driver...why does the Energy Driver exist? For toy sales sure, but since Kouta's Driver is strong enough to bat off the Energy Riders, it makes the upgraded Drivers seem even more silly and pointless in the actual story.

[mook]

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Originally Posted by Locke

So if he originally built the core...and the sengoku driver...why does the Energy Driver exist? For toy sales sure, but since Kouta's Driver is strong enough to bat off the Energy Riders, it makes the upgraded Drivers seem even more silly and pointless in the actual story.

Jinba is inferior than the Genesis driver, it was a prototype after all. the Genesis driver is supposed to be the best driver currently available. If you remember, Ryouma also remarked how Kouta was able to draw more potential from Jinba, so I can't see how either of them are pointless.
The lockseed/driver isn't the only part of the equation, skills and tactics also come into play, and that explains how Sid with superior tech could be beaten by Jinba.