[barnstenchfartface]

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

Well TV Tropes cites TG as an example of the trope but whatevs.

The Anteiku ghouls are still just as evil as the Aogiri ghouls as far as I'm concerned.

Tvtropes says a lot of stupid shit.

Have you actually read the series?

Because that's

sort of the whole point.

Tokyo Ghoul never takes a "these guys are the bad guys because they do x!" or "actually, it's these guys, because they y!" stance. The real villains in the series, if they can be called that, are the institutions that keep people pointing the finger at each other, brewing hate and distrust, that form barriers to compromise and coexistence. And, by extension, the real villains are the people who manipulate and take advantage of these institutions to harm the innocent and propagate their broken system, whether these people are human or ghoul (as they often are).

In-series, ghouls and humans are often shown in sympathetic and justified lights in fairly equal measure, because the underlying point (and the larger theme present in Sui Ishida's works, if perhaps made more explicit in The Penisman) is that everyone is just human at heart, with all the flaws and insecurities that come with that. That the only things standing in the way of understanding are the aforementioned systems that keep people at each other's throats, the tendency of people to think in absolutes...basically a lot of bullshit.

The whole "X group is the REAL monster" shit is the exact thing Tokyo Ghoul is all about denouncing.

[GoseiWonder]

Except it all falls apart when you stop and realize that the audience is human, therefore the humans are right in everything they do toward the ghouls and the ghouls are wrong in everything they do because they need to kill and eat humans to survive.

[Electric Turahk]

Really can't agree with you at all on these points. Because "the audience is human," does that mean we can't root for and understand the struggles of flying men with capes, armored bug men that occasionally ride motorcycles, or robotic aliens that transform into cars just because they aren't normal people?

You're looking at it far, far too black and white.

[Guyver Spawn]

Speaking of Tokyo Ghoul, I saw Episode 1 on Toonami and the dub is not too bad. I seen the first two episodes subbed when it came out and could not get into it. I will try to give it another chance before I drop it for good.

[Klonoahedgehog]

Project x zone 2 made me want to look up .Hack stuff because I liked those characters so I picked one at random because I don't see an indication of which series comes first.

[Guyver Spawn]

I remember watching .Hack//Sign back in the early 2000's. It's a decent show, I say give it a watch.

[WhiteRanger]

Just saw live action ghost in shell and it not a bad movie. Story wise major name is revealed and is explain why it some thing else at the same time it ant due to both name are reference. I will say it better the dragon Ball evolution
I only watched the original 1995 animal film yesterday

[Dr Kain]

It's better than Dragon Ball Evolution, but so is getting run over by a train.

The only reason it's called Ghost in the Shell is because it just rips out all of our favorite scenes from the franchise while having a bare bones story that is so generic and cookie cutter. Not to mention I hope you don't like Section 9, because they are wallpaper. Ishikawa, Pazu, and Borma don't even get their names called while some made up for the movie woman character goes on missions. Oh, and Togusa is now a 50-ish year old Chinese man.

[WhiteRanger]

I will say the visual beautiful

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger

I will say the visual beautiful

That's not really a saving grace as ever the most harsh critics at least gave it that
Also there are scenes which really should have had a seizure warning apparently