[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

I doubt Bardock is the warrior that Beerus is talking about since Bardock would be dead by now (if Episode of Bardock is consider to be canon) and Beerus considers this person to be the strongest person that he was fought. Bardock is way weaker then Goku. I would imagine it's a new fighter that we never seen before.

Well I hope it's a new character that's not a saiyan lol. I can't wait to see who it is.

[WhiteRanger]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

I doubt Bardock is the warrior that Beerus is talking about since Bardock would be dead by now (if Episode of Bardock is consider to be canon) and Beerus considers this person to be the strongest person that he was fought. Bardock is way weaker then Goku. I would imagine it's a new fighter that we never seen before.

Thing is episode of burdock ant cannon due to the fact it was not written by Akira minus on the other hand is

[MrHerofan]

Truly though what can consider cannon and non canon. I remember seeing videos on Youtube saying of how there could be multiple canon's, and if one wants what they consider canon.

There is the manga canon of what happens in the manga is canon. Many seem to believe for this to be the end all be all canon.

The anime canon states that most of what happens in the anime is canon. (Hell of course being of the things that was changed.)

Then there is everything in between of where people pick and chose their favorites.

Now granted for me I see the anime as my canon that branches off in to two different directions, with the first 13 movies not being canon, because well if you've seen them you know. The manga I see as being the most basic form of the story with possibly less intensity than the anime, the hype isn't as much there, because in the anime you have to wait a while before the Z-FIghters win, adding to who will win or lose, how many heroes will fall?

But anyway I feel that was a bit too much of a ramble from me.

[Dr Kain]

For me, the true canon is the manga, Tarble special, Battle of Gods, and Resurrection F.

However, I'm okay with the anime canon with Super except for the Garlic saga because there is no way that can exist at all.

As for the Bardock episode, that is only in the anime timeline since they showed scenes from it in the anime itself when Freeza fought Goku.

[Guyver Spawn]

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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger

Thing is episode of burdock ant cannon due to the fact it was not written by Akira minus on the other hand is

Naho Ooishi, the writer of Episode of Bardock mentions it as a what if story. I would say Episode of Bardock is set in a timeline where Bardock somehow survives.

When it comes to canon in Dragon Ball, this how I view it:

Manga:

DB-/Jaco
DB volumes 1 - 42
2008 Jump Special
BOG
ROF
Universe 6 (Toriyama wrote the story for it. So he seems to have a big part of it)

Kai:

DB-/Jaco
DB Anime
Kai
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
Super

GT:

Bardock: Father of Goku
DB Anime
DBZ Movie 1
DBZ Anime
History of Trunks TV Special
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
GT

DB Online:

Bardock Father of Goku
DB volumes 1 - 42

I consider GT and Online to be alternate continuites. I think the Bojack movie and Wrath of the Dragon movie are the only old DBZ movies that fit in my opinion. The first Coola and Broly movie could have fit if there was not for some of the inconsistencies. The other movies and Episode of Bardock are set in alternate timelines in my opinion.

[WhiteRanger]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Naho Ooishi, the writer of Episode of Bardock mentions it as a what if story. I would say Episode of Bardock is set in a timeline where Bardock somehow survives.

When it comes to canon in Dragon Ball, this how I view it:

Manga:

DB-/Jaco
DB volumes 1 - 42
2008 Jump Special
BOG
ROF
Universe 6 (Toriyama wrote the story for it. So he seems to have a big part of it)

Kai:

DB-/Jaco
DB Anime
Kai
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
Super

GT:

Bardock: Father of Goku
DB Anime
DBZ Movie 1
DBZ Anime
History of Trunks TV Special
DBZ Movie 9
DBZ Movie 13
GT

DB Online:

Bardock Father of Goku
DB volumes 1 - 42

I consider GT and Online to be alternate continuites. I think the Bojack movie and Wrath of the Dragon movie are the only old DBZ movies that fit in my opinion. The first Coola and Broly movie could have fit if there was not for some of the inconsistencies. The other movies and Episode of Bardock are set in alternate timelines in my opinion.

Mines the same as your minus the movies you mentioned

[Guyver Spawn]

The first Super blu-ray volume came out in Japan. Here are some of the changes that they did. The image is too large to post on the forums, so click on the link down below.

http://i.imgur.com/TlyW3dH.jpg

[Dr Kain]

We watched episodes 19-21 of Super today and I did enjoy them. They didn't drag, but at the same time, they had a perfect opportunity to actually do "filler" that would have worked and they skipped right over it. I also don't like that Tagoma did not die in this one and it makes Freeza seem a lot less threatening because he didn't outright kill his man. That was very lame. They also screwed up Shenron's wish count again. Not as good as the movie, but it doesn't feel half assed like the Battle of Gods stuff did.

[Guyver Spawn]

I look forward to Ginyu's return even though him returning would be view as a plot hole given how Dende said don't wish back the really bad people. Oh well, I do wonder how Ginyu will be defeated this time.

[KyoryuGreen]

Well technically Ginyu's been stuck in that frog's body for who knows how long. I think Frieza didn't kill that one guy because I can see Ginyu taking over his body or something like that.