[DecadeW Climax]

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Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme

I loooove bashing on TV Nihon but I will admit that their modern subs are a lot better than stuff like Blade. They're still not exactly my first choice when it comes to subs though.

Yeah, I used to avoid them like the plague but now if I'm forced to watch them (looks like Over-Time isn't going to be subbing Drive Vs. Ghost anytime soon...) I'm okay. I prefer Over-Time though, but it's FREE. You don't give them a penny so as long as I understand it (I use that term loosely) I can't bash it too much.

[Matrixbeast]

Personally, I don't care as long as it's coherent.

Why do I prefer TV-Nihon? Because they're not some wordpress blog that I have to scroll through 12 pages worth of posts to find X or Y. I enjoy how well organized they keep their site and torrents.

No comment on quality.

[DecadeW Climax]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Personally, I don't care as long as it's coherent.

Why do I prefer TV-Nihon? Because they're not some wordpress blog that I have to scroll through 12 pages worth of posts to find X or Y. I enjoy how well organized they keep their site and torrents.

No comment on quality.

Not to mention every other fans sub is chock full of dead torrents if it's not from the current series whereas TVN still has really old stuff still alive and quick download speeds. Right now I'm watching Ryuki and I'm surprised it didn't take a week to download and instead only took a night. Sometimes quantity over quality

[Jkin62]

I have a bit of a rant for the Heisei KR seasons I've seen thus far that are Pre-Decade.
(Please keep in mind this is all subjective)
To Kuuga, Agito, 555, and Kiva... the only Pre-Decade non-Den-O seasons I have watched...
Goddamn, you guys are slow as balls. Maybe I was spoiled by the style that came across in Den-O and the Neo-Heisei seasons, but by god are these slow. The pacing is like at 1/2 speed. It is quite simply, boring. A whole lot of nothing was the main chunk of the episode coupled with an important plot point that takes longer to get to the point than a fat guy takes to run 5 miles. (Odd comparison I know but I'm angered, I can't think straight XD) I played an episode of Kuuga at 2x speed and missed nothing. Holy crap did I loathe sitting through Kuuga. I gave it hope that maybe it'd get better or maybe I'd get used to the style, but nope! Still as boring as when I started.
Let me be clear, with Kuuga and the above seasons I mentioned, it's not that I hate the characters or the story, more often than not I usually like them. It's just at the point where good characters and story can't save a bad execution.
I quit Agito about 20 episodes in simply because the payoff to the story didn't feel like it was gonna be worth all the boredom I sat through with Kuuga. With 555 I made it around 20 eps as well, maybe 22 or 23. With Kiva, I just couldn't make it past episode 5. I don't have the fortitude to sit through an adult J-drama with monsters and an insect themed hero. Make it interesting at least. Decade showed you can be serious and interesting with a good pace. Hell, I'll just point to Gaim and say this is how you do serious storytelling at a good pace with Kamen Rider.

Okay maybe I was a bit harsh there, but I'm sorry, it's how I feel. Those seasons are all too dry for my taste. Definitely not a fan.

One more thing I'd like to rant about if you're still reading...

Super Hero Grand Prix, Kamen Rider Sangou...
Holy crap was this bad. Why on gods green earth did you take everything that made the OOO Den-O Let's Go Kamen Riders movie crap, and put it into this movie.
Timeline related mess? Check
Shocker rules the world. UGH. Check
None of the returning Riders billed as main characters being interesting? Double check.

Oh my god, seriously the worst Kamen Rider film to date. I literally have put Drive on hiatus it was so bad. It has effectively stopped my habits of watching KR for the first time since 2012.
Who's bright idea was it again to have Shocker rule the timeline, but never show how it changes Kamen Rider(Or I guess Shocker Rider) history? Was Helheim still a thing? How different was the final showdown in Gaim? What about the sabbath? You can't honestly tell me Haruto fights for hope in the name of Shocker. What was the Sonozaki family's status in all this? Did Decade end up detroying the AR Worlds and live up to his title as the destroyer of worlds? Did Godai f******* Yusuke still manage to control his final form fighting for smiles and still fight for Shocker?
None of these questions were answered. Nada. Ugh...
Nothing about this film was good. The cameos sucked, the action left me uninterested so that in turn sucked. The story was a joke. Nothing in Drive was advanced. The ending song wasn't memorable. There is nothing redeemable about this except the brief moments when you see your favorite Rider suit voiced by some complete stranger who clearly isn't the original actor and....
Aye... I'm gonna give myself an aneurysm if I go on.

Okay I'm done. Rage off and sleepy mode on...

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by DecadeW Climax

Yeah, I used to avoid them like the plague but now if I'm forced to watch them (looks like Over-Time isn't going to be subbing Drive Vs. Ghost anytime soon...) I'm okay. I prefer Over-Time though, but it's FREE. You don't give them a penny so as long as I understand it (I use that term loosely) I can't bash it too much.

Over-Time released the Drive/Ghost movie a couple days ago.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

This is not a fact. I can just as easily say "it does, and that's why people like it," and it would be just as true.

Oh come on. This show is almost over and I'm fairly sure you cannot agree with Ghost having "one of the best casts and stories" on a basic level. Because it's just not true.

I can agree with someone if they point out the few good stories Ghost has, same with the characters. Alain is well handled, Akari is a good support character, and the story-arc where they first enter the Ganma World for example is well done.

But there's too much bad stuff around it in order to focus on the good things Ghost does and to call its stories and characters "one of the best". The characters are too weak overall, aside from maybe Alain, Akari and Makoto, who all have flaws still, and that's not good enough to be called one of the best. Some of the sub-plots are nice, and some arcs are not terrible, but a good story? Like overall? Absolutely not.

If you enjoy something that’s absolutely fine, and I do feel the need to point out that I don’t bear a grudge against anyone who likes Ghost, especially not KyoryuGreen or you, but enjoying someone is one thing, saying that it is good is another. I enjoyed Gaim a lot and I can very much see what people don’t like about it, instances where the show screwed up badly, but I don’t go around and try to tell people that it was all good.

And to be perfectly honest, the show might not be as bad as I think it to be, but from what I’ve gathered around the fandom it is definitely not among the best.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

See, this is why people don't care about the Showa guys. They get it in their heads the old shows are somehow "cheesier" than the new ones. I vaguely understand, but really, aside from, like, maybe Kuuga and Agito, what Kamen Rider shows aren't ridiculous?

You’ll have to admit that Showa did a lot of stupid shit no one would get away with nowadays. That’s what people call cheesy. It may be equally ridiculous to what shows do even today but it is handled much differently.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Gaim's epilogue did a great job of tying up loose ends and gave a really nice resolution to Micchi and Jounouchi's character arcs. The fact that Gaim fans don't like it is one of the things that most convinces me they're all crazy.

Since when is this a fact exactly? I dig the epilogue a lot.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Since when is this a fact exactly? I dig the epilogue a lot.

You'd only understand where the fuck Jam came from if you saw the movie, which in turn has another problem Gaim had, so much promotional filler... Also I highly doubt Takatora could actually survive what happened to him in the end

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

You'd only understand where the fuck Jam came from if you saw the movie, which in turn has another problem Gaim had, so much promotional filler... Also I highly doubt Takatora could actually survive what happened to him in the end

Yeah but Jam is only a tool so I don’t really care. They could've used a giant weasel and I would've still liked it, mostly because Micchy and Kota fighting together again was awesome.

Does it make sense? Nope. Is it well handled? Not particularly, as you said they used a movie villain from another dimension which is kinda ass, but I enjoyed it a lot. Especially the scenes with the supporting cast and little things like Jonouchi using the Matsubokkuri lockseed.

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

I mean, if you never watched the movie, then Jam would just be some generic villain guy you got to watch Kouta and Micchy tag team on, which would be good enough for the purposes of the story.

The last episode wasn't about Jam, it was about Micchy trying to become a hero again, and it fit perfectly with the series.

[DecadeW Climax]

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Originally Posted by Jkin62

Super Hero Grand Prix, Kamen Rider Sangou...
Holy crap was this bad. Why on gods green earth did you take everything that made the OOO Den-O Let's Go Kamen Riders movie crap, and put it into this movie.
Timeline related mess? Check
Shocker rules the world. UGH. Check
None of the returning Riders billed as main characters being interesting? Double check.

Oh my god, seriously the worst Kamen Rider film to date. I literally have put Drive on hiatus it was so bad. It has effectively stopped my habits of watching KR for the first time since 2012.
Who's bright idea was it again to have Shocker rule the timeline, but never show how it changes Kamen Rider(Or I guess Shocker Rider) history? Was Helheim still a thing? How different was the final showdown in Gaim? What about the sabbath? You can't honestly tell me Haruto fights for hope in the name of Shocker. What was the Sonozaki family's status in all this? Did Decade end up detroying the AR Worlds and live up to his title as the destroyer of worlds? Did Godai f******* Yusuke still manage to control his final form fighting for smiles and still fight for Shocker?
None of these questions were answered. Nada. Ugh...
Nothing about this film was good. The cameos sucked, the action left me uninterested so that in turn sucked. The story was a joke. Nothing in Drive was advanced. The ending song wasn't memorable. There is nothing redeemable about this except the brief moments when you see your favorite Rider suit voiced by some complete stranger who clearly isn't the original actor and....
Aye... I'm gonna give myself an aneurysm if I go on.

Okay I'm done. Rage off and sleepy mode on...

That movie made no sense. I just pretend the Yongou movie exists in that movie's place. I still don't get why the recycled the same plot from Let's Go Kamen Riders came back, but it's a Super Hero Taisen movie. I expect all Rider movies to suck before watching them because it's true for the majority of them.

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Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura

I mean, if you never watched the movie, then Jam would just be some generic villain guy you got to watch Kouta and Micchy tag team on, which would be good enough for the purposes of the story.

The last episode wasn't about Jam, it was about Micchy trying to become a hero again, and it fit perfectly with the series.

What I would change about the epilogue is making Kouta not come back because he ruins the challenge for Micchy to face since he's a god and making Jonuchi become a Kurokage only to not affect the baddies at all ruined his redeeming moment. He should've helped Micchy instead of Kouta. Also, Zack and Takatora should've stayed dead since coming back makes their sacrifice seem pointless.