[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

They also screwed up Shenron's wish count again.

On this note, can someone explain to me what Shenron's wish count is supposed to be? I've just completely lost track of it by this point.

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Not as good as the movie, but it doesn't feel half assed like the Battle of Gods stuff did.

Agreed. None of this is particularly necessary but it doesn't feel like a chore like the BoG arc.

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Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen

Well technically Ginyu's been stuck in that frog's body for who knows how long. I think Frieza didn't kill that one guy because I can see Ginyu taking over his body or something like that.

The next episode preview pretty much confirmed this.

[Dr Kain]

Unless Ginyu has a voice recognition device, there is no way he can change bodies.

[WhiteRanger]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

On this note, can someone explain to me what Shenron's wish count is supposed to be? I've just completely lost track of it by this point.



Agreed. None of this is particularly necessary but it doesn't feel like a chore like the BoG arc.



The next episode preview pretty much confirmed this.

Right kami shenron only had power to give him one wish dende made it so it cam grant two wish that's.ever since he became the new kami.

[ZeoRangerV]

So Resurrection F has been the only thing of these new productions to get it right? Gotcha.

[WhiteRanger]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

So Resurrection F has been the only thing of these new productions to get it right? Gotcha.

pretty much. even in Z they remebered if you only need one wish out the two dragon ball turn to stone for half a year

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

So Resurrection F has been the only thing of these new productions to get it right? Gotcha.

And Battle of Gods because BoG he offered to grant them 2 wishes, but they only needed him for one before Goku told him they were good.

No matter how you slice it though, the wish count has been screwed up since Boo. It was two wishes when Bulma went to wish everyone killed by Majin Vegeta back, but then it was three wishes after they restored the Earth. Then in BoG it was two wishes along with in RF, but 2 in Super's first half and three now. UGH!!

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

And Battle of Gods because BoG he offered to grant them 2 wishes, but they only needed him for one before Goku told him they were good.

Oh yeah, I must have forgotten about that line.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

And Battle of Gods because BoG he offered to grant them 2 wishes, but they only needed him for one before Goku told him they were good.

Wait, what? In both the German dub and the Subtitles of the Japanese version this is never mentioned. Shenron just asks if knowing about if the Super Saiyan God exists is the wish or something else, Goku (or Beerus) wishes to know how to make one, he tells them and vanishes.

He never says if they want another wish, and upon being summoned he asks to grant a wish in singular form, not multiple wishes.

So either that's something the English dub made up or it was completely lost in translation.

Either way, the wish count sis something so crewed up at this point I just accept it's completely random.

[Guyver Spawn]

Shenron's wish count has become confusing since I remember that Dende made Shenron able to grant three wishes (two if one is resurrecting a massive amount of people). After the Buu saga, Mr. Satan hide Fat Buu for six months to use the Dragon Balls erase the memories of Majin Buu on Earth. Pilaf made his wish to become younger again which was likely sometime after Buu and before BOG. If you view Wrath of Dragon canon since it's one of the few old DBZ movies that fit then there is the wish of Hoi making the wish to free Tapion of the box. They also had to wait to use the Dragon Balls to wish back everyone who died from Hirudegarn.

I guess Toriyama and the writers at Toei can't make up their minds on the wish account on Shenron.

[WhiteRanger]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Shenron's wish count has become confusing since I remember that Dende made Shenron able to grant three wishes (two if one is resurrecting a massive amount of people). After the Buu saga, Mr. Satan hide Fat Buu for six months to use the Dragon Balls erase the memories of Majin Buu on Earth. Pilaf made his wish to become younger again which was likely sometime after Buu and before BOG. If you view Wrath of Dragon canon since it's one of the few old DBZ movies that fit then there is the wish of Hoi making the wish to free Tapion of the box. They also had to wait to use the Dragon Balls to wish back everyone who died from Hirudegarn.

I guess Toriyama and the writers at Toei can't make up their minds on the wish account on Shenron.

On toriyama part he stated several times he forgetful he even stated he forgot to give trunks and Goten tales when they were born.