The Western Animation Discussion Thread

guncannon109 · 08-05-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiryu

Don't care what anyone has to say about Prime, this is part was the best part of it.

One thing you need to remember about being a Vehicon grunt... Megatron don't check to see if you can fly or not.

Sentai · 08-05-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

One thing you need to remember about being a Vehicon grunt... Megatron don't check to see if you can fly or not.

If you arent good enough for a name then you aren't good enough for the Glory of our Dark Lord Megatron.

Matrixbeast · 08-05-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

It was wrong because it ruined the character. He turned into a religious nut.

I'd much rather think of Beast Wars and Animated has G1 canon and ignore Beast Machines ever took place. There's a reason the initials are BM.

And the show made it clear Primal was in the wrong. His fanaticism with quasi-philosophical nonsense in an attempt to find peace was the wrong path to travel down, which is what helped Cheetor evolve into the leader role.

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Originally Posted by Kiryu

Don't care what anyone has to say about Prime, this is part was the best part of it.

I loved that moment

Shame I could never get past Smokescreen's annoying mug to enjoy the character.

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Originally Posted by Sentai

If you arent good enough for a name then you aren't good enough for the Glory of our Dark Lord Megatron.

He did have a name.
Megatron just never thought to ask

TheCivilShark · 08-05-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I loved that moment

Shame I could never get past Smokescreen's annoying mug to enjoy the character.
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Why do they keep bringing back Hotshot from Armada and then not calling him Hotshot?

Unpopular opinion time: I loved Armada, hated Energon and Cybertron, but I adore Armada. That is hands down my favorite look for Optimus Prime.

Matrixbeast · 08-05-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCivilShark

Why do they keep bringing back Hotshot from Armada and then not calling him Hotshot?

Unpopular opinion time: I loved Armada, hated Energon and Cybertron, but I adore Armada. That is hands down my favorite look for Optimus Prime.

I found Armada to be...Inadequate. I didn't find it as horribad as everyone else did, but I didn't enjoy it enough to truly have fun with it. It had it's moments (The oft mentioned Starscream, the climax, hell, the entire second portion of the show), but it was just too error ridden and makes too many mistakes for me to sit down and enjoy it like I can with Beast Wars or Prime.

Energon and Cybertron were their own flavors of bad, but Cybertron did do enough right for me to declare it simply mediocre. Energon was one of two series (The other being Headmasters) that I considered a chore to get through.

algo448 · 08-05-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCivilShark

Why do they keep bringing back Hotshot from Armada and then not calling him Hotshot?

Unpopular opinion time: I loved Armada, hated Energon and Cybertron, but I adore Armada. That is hands down my favorite look for Optimus Prime.

Armada is also my favorite of the three, show wise, if we talk about Prime's design I can't choose between Armada and Cybertron, cybertron is more toyetic, but by itself Armada is better.

Matrixbeast · 08-05-2013, 06:47 PM

From a purely design perspective, I think Armada had the better designs, personally. Energon was too bland, looking dull and uninspired, and Cybertron was too boxy and chunky feeling clunky and incredibly off.

Paladin · 08-05-2013, 06:48 PM

Armada is heavily flawed, both in storytelling and production. The dub is atrocious and I really hope one day we can get the Japanese version with full updated subtitles (and finished animation).

But Armada did have a few good ideas. I loved their take on Starscream, and reimagining Wheeljack as a vengeful Decepticon was close to inspired.

Sentai · 08-05-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCivilShark

Why do they keep bringing back Hotshot from Armada and then not calling him Hotshot?

Unpopular opinion time: I loved Armada, hated Energon and Cybertron, but I adore Armada. That is hands down my favorite look for Optimus Prime.

How is the truth unpopular? Armada was just better.

algo448 · 08-05-2013, 06:52 PM

So I guess for most, it comes across as the lesser of three evils?

I'm quite fond of Armada, in big part because it was the series that introduced me to Unicron.

08-05-2013, 06:30 PM	#853
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Quote: Originally Posted by Sentai It was wrong because it ruined the character. He turned into a religious nut. I'd much rather think of Beast Wars and Animated has G1 canon and ignore Beast Machines ever took place. There's a reason the initials are BM. And the show made it clear Primal was in the wrong. His fanaticism with quasi-philosophical nonsense in an attempt to find peace was the wrong path to travel down, which is what helped Cheetor evolve into the leader role. Quote: Originally Posted by Kiryu Don't care what anyone has to say about Prime, this is part was the best part of it. I loved that moment Shame I could never get past Smokescreen's annoying mug to enjoy the character. Quote: Originally Posted by Sentai If you arent good enough for a name then you aren't good enough for the Glory of our Dark Lord Megatron. He did have a name. Megatron just never thought to ask __________________

08-05-2013, 06:45 PM	#855
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Quote: Originally Posted by TheCivilShark Why do they keep bringing back Hotshot from Armada and then not calling him Hotshot? Unpopular opinion time: I loved Armada, hated Energon and Cybertron, but I adore Armada. That is hands down my favorite look for Optimus Prime. I found Armada to be...Inadequate. I didn't find it as horribad as everyone else did, but I didn't enjoy it enough to truly have fun with it. It had it's moments (The oft mentioned Starscream, the climax, hell, the entire second portion of the show), but it was just too error ridden and makes too many mistakes for me to sit down and enjoy it like I can with Beast Wars or Prime. Energon and Cybertron were their own flavors of bad, but Cybertron did do enough right for me to declare it simply mediocre. Energon was one of two series (The other being Headmasters) that I considered a chore to get through. __________________

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algo448 Amateur Procrastinator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Colombia Posts: 7,491	Quote: Originally Posted by TheCivilShark Why do they keep bringing back Hotshot from Armada and then not calling him Hotshot? Unpopular opinion time: I loved Armada, hated Energon and Cybertron, but I adore Armada. That is hands down my favorite look for Optimus Prime. Armada is also my favorite of the three, show wise, if we talk about Prime's design I can't choose between Armada and Cybertron, cybertron is more toyetic, but by itself Armada is better. __________________ *DA // Tumblr // Youtube* Last edited by algo448; 08-05-2013 at 06:49 PM..

08-05-2013, 06:47 PM	#857
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	From a purely design perspective, I think Armada had the better designs, personally. Energon was too bland, looking dull and uninspired, and Cybertron was too boxy and chunky feeling clunky and incredibly off. __________________

08-05-2013, 06:48 PM	#858
Paladin Have Zord, Will Travel Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MI Posts: 5,955	Armada is heavily flawed, both in storytelling and production. The dub is atrocious and I really hope one day we can get the Japanese version with full updated subtitles (and finished animation). But Armada did have a few good ideas. I loved their take on Starscream, and reimagining Wheeljack as a vengeful Decepticon was close to inspired. __________________ TWITTER: Paladin4221 Check out my SALES THREAD Please! Every Little Bit Helps!