[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

@Battlizer
I never said it's an insult and of course the original show IS still there, but it's still quite direspectful to announce that on the day of the finale, when people are still a bit emotional about that.
Still, it feels like Saban gives a sh*t about Sentai. After all, they didn't even bother to give credit to the original for years. And their adaptions seem to just take all that makes a season individual from it and make it more "cool".


@Yellow Ranger
Because yeah, dancing to transform surely is a sign of bad quality... And just because there is a Zyudenchi used in about 3 or 4 episodes that farts to distract enemies, that makes Kyoryuger a bad show?
Seriously, it sounds to me as if you haven't seen Kyoryuger, so you shouldn't be someone to say it was a bad show. Because there's more to a show than the outward appearance and the comedy, you know.

It is when you're complaining about Saban "dumbing things down for kids" when Kyoryuger quite frankly from what I've heard and seen isn't that mature a show to begin with.No but I've talked to people who have and from what I've heard it doesn't seem to be my cup of tea.

[Suzu]

"Dumbing things down for kids" and a just making a show for kids are still two different things. I never said Kyoryuger is mature. It's a kids show, like every other season of Super Sentai (or Kamen Rider). But unlike most Power Rangers stuff I've seen, it doesn't act as if their viewers wouldn't get the action without the characters commenting every little shit that happens.
Okay, it isn't your cup of tea, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I'm not very fond of Ultraman, but I don't think it's a bad show just because I didn't like what I've seen.

Also, regarding the rights: Just because they bought the right for the show, it still doesn't make the show their creation. If I buy a handmade necklace, it DOES belong to me, but I do not claim I made it, because I haven't. Sure, they do add their own stuff in PR, but they still use designs and story elements created by someone else and that's something you have to credit.

[Battlizer]

When you say MOST PR stuff....do you mean you mean the recent Saban seasons? Because they're really the only ones that dumb it down at all. Even MMPR mostly relied on being as awfully 90's as possible instead of spelling everything out like Samurai and Megaforce do. But yeah most seasons dont tend to talk down so much.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

Also, regarding the rights: Just because they bought the right for the show, it still doesn't make the show their creation. If I buy a handmade necklace, it DOES belong to me, but I do not claim I made it, because I haven't. Sure, they do add their own stuff in PR, but they still use designs and story elements created by someone else and that's something you have to credit.

A sentai purist using an apples and oranges argument? The fun never stops. If you have no interest in discussing DINO CHARGE which is NOT KYORYUGER and just wanna gush over some sentai show, then why are you here? Sentai purists will never make sense to me.

Hey I hate Power Rangers so much I'm gonna let everyone know by bring it up in every Power Rangers discussion ever!

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

Also, regarding the rights: Just because they bought the right for the show, it still doesn't make the show their creation. If I buy a handmade necklace, it DOES belong to me, but I do not claim I made it, because I haven't. Sure, they do add their own stuff in PR, but they still use designs and story elements created by someone else and that's something you have to credit.

They...do? Each Sentai series has always been credited in the end credits, along with the writer/original conceiver (although flicking through the Super Megaforce credits they used Hatte Saburo, which amused me). Hell I vaguely remember some Samurai eps even having "adapted from a story by..." at the beginning.

[Suzu]

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Originally Posted by Battlizer

When you say MOST PR stuff....do you mean you mean the recent Saban seasons? Because they're really the only ones that dumb it down at all. Even MMPR mostly relied on being as awfully 90's as possible instead of spelling everything out like Samurai and Megaforce do. But yeah most seasons dont tend to talk down so much.

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I don't remember they did it in the Disney seasons, which were the ones I remembered watching first.

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Originally Posted by Locke

A sentai purist using an apples and oranges argument? The fun never stops. If you have no interest in discussing DINO CHARGE which is NOT KYORYUGER and just wanna gush over some sentai show, then why are you here? Sentai purists will never make sense to me.

Hey I hate Power Rangers so much I'm gonna let everyone know by bring it up in every Power Rangers discussion ever!

Oh yeah, because saying I don't like the newer Saban seasons makes me a Sentai purist. Especially as someone who said: "I wish Disney would get the rights back, because I liked Disney Power Rangers" I'm surely a Sentai purist and hate Power Rangers in general. And since when do I "let everyone know how much I hate Power Rangers" in every discussion about it? This is the first time I ever spoke up in a Power Rangers discussion on this forum.

And if I remember correctly, you are always complaining about people telling you to stop whining about all the bad things in Kamen Rider seasons (especially when it comes to Gaim), so you ask ME not to state my opinion on Dino Charge?
Oh yeah. I forgot, YOU are always right with what you say and it's perfectly fine to say how much you hate Kuuga and how awesome you think Wizard is and everyone who has a different opinion just can't judge a show objectively.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

And if I remember correctly, you are always complaining about people telling you to stop whining about all the bad things in Kamen Rider seasons (especially when it comes to Gaim), so you ask ME not to state my opinion on Dino Charge?
Oh yeah. I forgot, YOU are always right with what you say and it's perfectly fine to say how much you hate Kuuga and how awesome you think Wizard is and everyone who has a different opinion just can't judge a show objectively.

Coming into a Power Rangers thread and immedaitly starting your post with how Saban doesn't respect Kyoryuger fans made me lose all interest and credibility in anything you posted after.

Constructive criticism and needless crap are two entirely separate beasts. It says everything that you cannot distinguish the two.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Coming into a Power Rangers thread and immedaitly starting your post with how Saban doesn't respect Kyoryuger fans made me lose all interest and credibility in anything you posted after.

Constructive criticism and needless crap are two entirely separate beasts. It says everything that you cannot distinguish the two.

Excellently put.

[Suzu]

@Lock
Well, if you just selectively read a post, that's not my problem. I am not responsible for you reading my post as a whole.

Oh yeah, of course. Positive statements are needless crap. And saying that a show sucks because it doesn't appeal to your personal preferences is constructive critsicism. Locke, I think you are the one who can't distinguish between the two.

I told you before I do not feel like wasting my time in discussing with you and after you told me you didn't even bother to read the post you commented on, I see that you do not even care to understand my point. It's always easier to accuse someone of being a purist and ignorant than to understand what they wanted to express with their comment. I've had enough of that. Have a nice day. I'm out.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

Have a nice day. I'm out.

That is probably for the best, for your sake.