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08-14-2022, 10:00 PM | #781 |
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For me personally, I just can't get into redeeming Thouser, I did like the story with Thouser (the dog), but it's not enough to let me overlook him, you know, allowing a bunch of people to die so that he could sell more Raidrisers. I honestly kind of liked the redemption when I first watched the series, but even with the rush caused by Covid, I'd assume they could've left out that scene from the last episode where Gai says he's fine with letting some people die, and even if I might've shed some tears when Gai reunited with Thouser, having a bad childhood isn't enough to gain my forgiveness. This episode is perfectly fine, but after all Gai's done, it's hard to forgive him. But, I can get why a lot of people do like the redemption, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, personally.
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08-14-2022, 10:07 PM | #782 |
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For me personally, I just can't get into redeeming Thouser, I did like the story with Thouser (the dog), but it's not enough to let me overlook him, you know, allowing a bunch of people to die so that he could sell more Raidrisers. I honestly kind of liked the redemption when I first watched the series, but even with the rush caused by Covid, I'd assume they could've left out that scene from the last episode where Gai says he's fine with letting some people die, and even if I might've shed some tears when Gai reunited with Thouser, having a bad childhood isn't enough to gain my forgiveness. This episode is perfectly fine, but after all Gai's done, it's hard to forgive him. But, I can get why a lot of people do like the redemption, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, personally.
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08-14-2022, 10:19 PM | #783 |
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I'm very ambivalent about this episode. On the one hand, it is patently ridiculous at this point in the series to pull a face turn for Gai. He's been manipulating and gaslighting the heroes since his first appearance and is the primary cause of most - arguably all - of the show's main conflicts. Literally one episode ago he was plotting to put potentially thousands of people at risk to turn a profit. There has been little, if anything, to indicate that he has any kind of redeeming characteristics. Any effort to reform him would require a very long and difficult process to pull off in a way that a) didn't feel forced and b) might actually be convincing. Instead we get this: "I got my robot puppy back so now I'm a good guy." It is objectively ludicrous.
That said, it absolutely worked for me and I legitimately got teary eyed when I watched it. I've always had pets and I've loved them all deeply. I had to put down my 15-year-old cat last month after a months-long battle with cancer. The anticipatory grief alone almost wrecked me. I have also always over-empathized with inanimate objects. I was a stuffed animal kid well into elementary school and there is absolutely a teddy bear whose reconstruction would be like regaining a family member for me. Everything about Thouser (the dog) was custom-made to appeal to my emotions and this episode hit me like a truck. So yeah, this episode absolutely worked for me, even if, on paper, it's one of the dumbest plots in a franchise that once included a plan to destroy Japan's economy by getting artists promoted to the heads of major corporations and then giving them writer's block. |
08-14-2022, 10:24 PM | #784 |
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I'll give my overall thoughts on this situation once the thread reaches next episode, but speaking for this episode specifically, the only thing in it that I didn't like was Aruto & co treating Gai's' love of Hiden as some big twist, when Gai outright told Aruto about the respect Gai held for Aruto's' Grandfather when they first met.
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08-14-2022, 10:34 PM | #785 |
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It's Episode 38!
-Yes, it's indeed the long-awaited "Thouser and Thouser" episode. Before I say anything, I must note that similar verbal abuse and pressure that Gai goes through that parents inflict on their children is a very, very, serious and awful thing. However.....Doesn't this whole reveal feel downright goofy, or is it me? I can see how having an awful parent that pressures you to meet a standards that is frankly impossible while forcing you to push away any "distractions" (such as one cute robot dog) may turn someone into a person who uses any method they can to get ahead to reach that standard, but like...this is Gai Amatsu we're talking about, yknow? The guy who either directly or indirectly caused every bit of the show's conflicts. It's a bit hard to swallow, I suppose, even if the show at this point isn't necessarily asking me to forgive him right now. (Gai's delivery on "Yes Aruto I have gotten my robot dog back and recieved a brief therapy session let's now ~work together~ to defeat Ark" is so amusing to me, so there's that.) - Thouser the Dog is super adorable though, Rider is naturally improved just have random mascot-esque characters running around, dunno why they stopped after like, what? Wizard? (.......This may be perhaps a bit Too Much, so you're all free to ignore this part perhaps what makes Gai hard to swallow is that due to my own personal experiences is that people of Gai's position who share similar mindsets...are just straight up awful? There's no sob story at the beginning of their stories: they are just Terrible People who don't care about the Terrible Things they do to people as long as they are happy and successful. I am fully aware however, that this is a show about karate bugmen making each other explode to teach children how to be good people, so I understand such a concept is an unsavory deal to write about. It's a big part about how I find this stuff to be a lil less than ideal in watching this show, so I felt like I should mention it.) -I forget to mention it earlier, but someone did translate the full list of dirt Shesta pulled up on Gai. It's.....A Lot! Ranging from sexual harrassment to tax evasion to simply faking reasons to be absent from work. I know it's in the very fabric of Gai's character to be as cartoonishly evil as possible but like. Maybe they shouldve not include that first crime if you want everyone to be willing to even hear out any kind of sympathetic lense for him.......? But that's just me. |
08-14-2022, 10:57 PM | #786 |
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I'll give my overall thoughts on this situation once the thread reaches next episode, but speaking for this episode specifically, the only thing in it that I didn't like was Aruto & co treating Gai's' love of Hiden as some big twist, when Gai outright told Aruto about the respect Gai held for Aruto's' Grandfather when they first met.
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I forget to mention it earlier, but someone did translate the full list of dirt Shesta pulled up on Gai. It's.....A Lot! Ranging from sexual harrassment to tax evasion to simply faking reasons to be absent from work. I know it's in the very fabric of Gai's character to be as cartoonishly evil as possible but like. Maybe they shouldve not include that first crime if you want everyone to be willing to even hear out any kind of sympathetic lense for him.......? But that's just me.
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08-14-2022, 11:40 PM | #787 |
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I know we're all talking about Gai and Thouser, how Thouser is the most adorable thing ever, and Gai getting a redemption arc...but I just wanted to point out the fact that the bike finally came back after like 20 or more episodes and we get to see Aruto not only transform on said bike but make a desperate charge at Ark while in his base form, on his bike. Like, yeah, if you're going to bring the bike back after so long, you make it have an impact.
I guess it's not altogether unsurprising that yet another Takahashi CEO Rider villain would have daddy issues and would end up joining the heroes' side (albeit even Gai's not as messed up and deranged as Kuroto and seems genuinely more salvageable) and we get the former rivals/nemesis finally teaming-up against Big Bad...but this time we have a cute robot dog in the middle of it! I do like how Aruto's final fight with Gai is merely perfunctory and altogether just the icing on the cake that is Gai's complete and utter defeat in everything that mattered, beating him down to ashes so he could receive mercy from Satellite Zea in the form of Thouser. Also, Gai is kind of projecting his old pet on a new model that was just constructed right in front of him? But I guess if it works, it works. |
08-14-2022, 11:46 PM | #788 |
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Also, can I mention how much I love Thouser skidding up to Gai during the fight scene at the end? It's just like with Izu and Aruto! Which... is maybe a little rude to Izu! But I still loved it!
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08-14-2022, 11:47 PM | #789 |
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I like to think that There had a backup of Thouser, and just built a new upgraded body for him. Same pet, new body.
Also, can I mention how much I love Thouser skidding up to Gai during the fight scene at the end? It's just like with Izu and Aruto! Which... is maybe a little rude to Izu! But I still loved it! |
08-14-2022, 11:52 PM | #790 |
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"Oh, you rode a bike for the first time in a couple dozen episodes. That's cool, here's my resurrected robot dog, which is now hyper-advanced and powerful." Typical Gai!
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