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01-06-2018, 12:34 AM | #11 |
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Honestly, guys? Blame the retailers.
I talked about this on my Twitter/Thanks Tokunation staff for confirming this - But Bandai is honestly not to blame here as it's the retailers who continually ask for more MMPR products to sell as they don't have faith in other seasons selling barring the current season of the TV show & Bandai can't really say no on the matter so, it's a catch-22 "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario here. If you ask me, all the major retailers need to have a sit-down & watch some In Space, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force, DinoThunder, SPD & the other seasons to understand that despite MMPR being the most iconic, it's not the best season of the show. Now onto the toys at hand? I don't hate them. I don't have the cash for the SOC Daizyujin and I certainly can't find the Imaginext Sabertooth anymore/eBay isn't an option for me. I know it's not the same thing, but I don't think people went nuts & demanded the Revoltech Transformers figures not be made because they couldn't transform or anything. Corporations don't give a rat's ass about a kid show's supposed quality they just want to make money. It's the same reason why Hasbro added an Iron Man toy to a Black Panther toyline. |
01-06-2018, 12:53 AM | #12 |
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After the travesty that is the Gold Ranger, I’ve decided not to continue purchasing Legacy figs. I know I woulda been all over these Zord figures, but I’m done with the line.
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01-06-2018, 12:54 AM | #13 |
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Would retailers even know the difference? Just stick an MMPR logo on the box and they'll probably let it go. I'm sick of Bandai's excuses.
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01-06-2018, 01:05 AM | #14 |
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Retailers don't care about Power Rangers as a show they only care about what isn't clogging up their shelves. It's the same reason why you had Iron Man shoehorned into a Black Panther toyline. |
01-06-2018, 01:50 AM | #15 |
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Call me when Legacy Shogun Megazord finally gets announced.
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01-06-2018, 04:52 AM | #16 |
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Originally was planned for Holiday 2017 but got shelved and pushed to Holiday 2018 to be one of the final "# of 25" special anniversary items. I do not have 100% confirmation on that which is why I don't run with it as a news story. That would mean the Lion Fire Megazord was pry pushed forward from Spring 2018 or Summer 2018 to Holiday 2018 to ensure there was a $100 item available for Power Rangers during the holiday season. What's even stranger - Lion Fire Megazord was originally supposed to be a Wal-Mart exclusive (I do have confirmation on that), but as to why it moved to Toys'R'Us? Anyone's guess. As to everyone's comments on Bandai/retailers/etc. It's important that everyone understand how the toy industry works before we get up in arms at anyone for anything. 1) Bandai creates toy line pitch, with mock-ups of product 2) Retailers decide whether or not to "buy in" to the product at their stores and give feedback on everything from gimmick, to line-up of characters, to packaging 3) If yes - Bandai begins production 4) If no - Bandai goes back to the drawing board Certain companies have more pull and power than others. Hasbro, for example, hardly gets a "no" anymore. But back in the day? I remember speaking with Aaron Archer over the course of WEEKS on how much of a pain in the ass it was to get the Robots in Disguise Scourge toy, with the chrome trailer, released in the US. No one wanted it. The price point was a weird one (like $35 or something) and retailers were afraid it wouldn't succeed. What happened? It went on to be one of the more successful Toys'R'Us exclusives and Transformers now has a firm grip on Toys'R'Us for exclusives (ie: the Masterpiece line). So why do all the expensive toys end up at Toys'R'Us? Think demographics. Who shops at Wal-Mart and Target? Everyone. Especially people on a budget. Who shops at Toys'R'Us? People looking to drop cash on expensive toys. Therefore, put the expensive toys at Toys'R'Us. As for the Legacy 6.5" figure line ... the real reason Bandai wants to keep the "Build a Figure" aspect of it is because it makes it easier to sell to retailers. The downside? We may see more and more MMPR related figures as "Build a Figure" in future assortments (ie: The Psycho Rangers). Why? Because retailers WANT more MMPR. But these figures are NOT selling with Build a Figure, and if you put weapons instead of figure pieces, you remove any chance that someone is collecting to build a Megazord. Not that it matters without the girls (who needs legs for their Megazord?). In short - the blame is 50/50. Retailers have the power and can easily influence a company to produce what they want (who wouldn't? I don't want to sell your toy if it doesn't sell, I want to move that toy and get my profit, if I don't then I don't want it in the future). But Bandai in the end manufactures the product and continues to cheapen out. They will give you a variety of reasons (cost, demographics, testing, blah blah blah) ... but in the end, the less they spend the happier their shareholders are, especially with product line(s) that have dropped considerably in sales since Dino Charge hit the shelves. Kyuranger adaptation will reverse the trend - I'll guarantee it. With a better show as well, you can expect the toys to be pretty popular. No more "recolored Megazords for auxiliary zords" ... I can promise you that. And if I'm wrong, then oh well ... chances are I'll buy it (as long as it's not too horrible looking) as I love me my Kyuranger.
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01-06-2018, 10:21 AM | #17 |
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My eyes say, "Yes.", but my SOC Megazord says, "No."
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01-06-2018, 12:26 PM | #18 |
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It's just so ridiculous that retailers are stuck on MMPR. Not even MMPR as a whole but season 1.
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01-06-2018, 01:19 PM | #19 |
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I just sorta lurk now. PR/Sentai/Kamen Rider hasn't really interested me since OOO and I've been into Transformers and bigly robots for a minute or two. |
01-06-2018, 03:42 PM | #20 |
I FOW our new Hasbro OLs
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If Zeo,In Space etc were flying off store shelves they'd be asking for more, heck if MM Pink was the top selling Legacy figure they'd want more of her too. And it isn't just PR notice how the last two TMNT shows both ended with a big crossover with the 80s cartoon turtles? Quote:
From what I have heard -
Originally was planned for Holiday 2017 but got shelved and pushed to Holiday 2018 to be one of the final "# of 25" special anniversary items. I do not have 100% confirmation on that which is why I don't run with it as a news story. That would mean the Lion Fire Megazord was pry pushed forward from Spring 2018 or Summer 2018 to Holiday 2018 to ensure there was a $100 item available for Power Rangers during the holiday season. What's even stranger - Lion Fire Megazord was originally supposed to be a Wal-Mart exclusive (I do have confirmation on that), but as to why it moved to Toys'R'Us? Anyone's guess. As to everyone's comments on Bandai/retailers/etc. It's important that everyone understand how the toy industry works before we get up in arms at anyone for anything. 1) Bandai creates toy line pitch, with mock-ups of product 2) Retailers decide whether or not to "buy in" to the product at their stores and give feedback on everything from gimmick, to line-up of characters, to packaging 3) If yes - Bandai begins production 4) If no - Bandai goes back to the drawing board Certain companies have more pull and power than others. Hasbro, for example, hardly gets a "no" anymore. But back in the day? I remember speaking with Aaron Archer over the course of WEEKS on how much of a pain in the ass it was to get the Robots in Disguise Scourge toy, with the chrome trailer, released in the US. No one wanted it. The price point was a weird one (like $35 or something) and retailers were afraid it wouldn't succeed. What happened? It went on to be one of the more successful Toys'R'Us exclusives and Transformers now has a firm grip on Toys'R'Us for exclusives (ie: the Masterpiece line). So why do all the expensive toys end up at Toys'R'Us? Think demographics. Who shops at Wal-Mart and Target? Everyone. Especially people on a budget. Who shops at Toys'R'Us? People looking to drop cash on expensive toys. Therefore, put the expensive toys at Toys'R'Us. As for the Legacy 6.5" figure line ... the real reason Bandai wants to keep the "Build a Figure" aspect of it is because it makes it easier to sell to retailers. The downside? We may see more and more MMPR related figures as "Build a Figure" in future assortments (ie: The Psycho Rangers). Why? Because retailers WANT more MMPR. But these figures are NOT selling with Build a Figure, and if you put weapons instead of figure pieces, you remove any chance that someone is collecting to build a Megazord. Not that it matters without the girls (who needs legs for their Megazord?). In short - the blame is 50/50. Retailers have the power and can easily influence a company to produce what they want (who wouldn't? I don't want to sell your toy if it doesn't sell, I want to move that toy and get my profit, if I don't then I don't want it in the future). But Bandai in the end manufactures the product and continues to cheapen out. They will give you a variety of reasons (cost, demographics, testing, blah blah blah) ... but in the end, the less they spend the happier their shareholders are, especially with product line(s) that have dropped considerably in sales since Dino Charge hit the shelves. Kyuranger adaptation will reverse the trend - I'll guarantee it. With a better show as well, you can expect the toys to be pretty popular. No more "recolored Megazords for auxiliary zords" ... I can promise you that. And if I'm wrong, then oh well ... chances are I'll buy it (as long as it's not too horrible looking) as I love me my Kyuranger. What's their secret Black Magic? Yeah I still remember buying MP Skywarp on clearance for 30$ from Walmart just wish child me had had the foresight to snag the original MP Optimus Prime when he went on clearance there years ago. Last edited by Yellow Ranger; 01-06-2018 at 03:57 PM.. |
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