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01-22-2020, 02:36 PM | #81 |
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Meteor is the single reason I decided to give Fourze a second chance, and was definitely my favorite character in the show. Burger Meal was also a bad ass, he saved the day so many times.
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01-22-2020, 02:46 PM | #82 |
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I mean, if I'm being honest? The most memorable Meteor thing for me from Fourze is the bit where Ryusei's first pretending to be a friend to the KRC, and everyone loves him and wants to be his friend except Gentaro. He's like, "I think you're a liar, and I can't be friends with a liar. You know that Meteor dude who just punched me in the face? Him, I can be friends with, because he's honest." I love that scene so much, but what I love about it isn't even something about Meteor, it's that Gentaro would more willingly be friends with an honest person who wanted to beat him up than a liar who's nice to him. My favorite Meteor thing in Fourze is a thing about Gentaro. Anyway, why is Meteor your favorite character in Fourze? Genuinely curious!
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01-22-2020, 03:54 PM | #83 |
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There's a few reasons. Firstly, as someone who is very aesthetic-conscious, I love his suit design, as well as the look of the actor. Fourze's design, while interesting, lacks a certain cool factor for me which Meteor has in spades. So the very moment he shows up my interest is piqued.
Where most characters in Fourze tend toward silly/zany, Ryusei came off as more serious to me, which I felt the show needed very badly. I don't need things to be Kuuga-Dark, but there's monsters about and peoples lives are in danger so the ultra-light tone chaffed me a bit. Ryusei/Meteor's goal of revenge (or maybe atonement would be more accurate?) for his friend/lover/whatever resonated with me far more than a guy who wants to form puddle-deep friendships with everyone. I also really like a character who hides his true nature (at least for a time) like Michi from Gaim. Ryusei's annoyance (and eventual acceptance) of the main cast mirrored my own feelings as the show progressed. Also, I'm a huge fan of Bruce Lee and Fist of the North Star, so all his "Waaah, aaaah-tah!" stuff really did it for me. All in all, I'm glad I gave Fourze a second chance as I ended up enjoying the show quite a bit. It'll never rank among my favorites, but (like all Rider Shows) there's still a ton there to enjoy. If it wasn't for Meteor's cool looking suit and dynamic fighting style, I may never have gone back for more. |
01-22-2020, 04:08 PM | #84 |
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There's a few reasons. Firstly, as someone who is very aesthetic-conscious, I love his suit design, as well as the look of the actor. Fourze's design, while interesting, lacks a certain cool factor for me which Meteor has in spades. So the very moment he shows up my interest is piqued.
Where most characters in Fourze tend toward silly/zany, Ryusei came off as more serious to me, which I felt the show needed very badly. I don't need things to be Kuuga-Dark, but there's monsters about and peoples lives are in danger so the ultra-light tone chaffed me a bit. Ryusei/Meteor's goal of revenge (or maybe atonement would be more accurate?) for his friend/lover/whatever resonated with me far more than a guy who wants to form puddle-deep friendships with everyone. I also really like a character who hides his true nature (at least for a time) like Michi from Gaim. Ryusei's annoyance (and eventual acceptance) of the main cast mirrored my own feelings as the show progressed. Also, I'm a huge fan of Bruce Lee and Fist of the North Star, so all his "Waaah, aaaah-tah!" stuff really did it for me. All in all, I'm glad I gave Fourze a second chance as I ended up enjoying the show quite a bit. It'll never rank among my favorites, but (like all Rider Shows) there's still a ton there to enjoy. If it wasn't for Meteor's cool looking suit and dynamic fighting style, I may never have gone back for more. I wonder if me not finding a lot in Meteor is down to how invested I was in the cast, and Gentaro specifically. It was hard for me to separate the needs of the plot (gotta have some conflict in the group) from my interest in core group. Like, Ryusei sneering at their lack of focus and demeaning Gentaro's warmth, like, screw you I love these guys. I guess it's not that he didn't have point, so much as I cared more about the rest of the cast than some secret-agenda interloper. Or maybe I'm remembering liking him less to be contrary? I don't know. I feel like I'm being mean to Ryusei and I don't 100% know why. I thought he was a good Rider! Fourze's a good show! I maybe could've done without what felt like a very long field trip to Ryusei's school, but I think he's a cool enough Rider. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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01-22-2020, 09:41 PM | #85 |
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My problems with Wizard's ending is that it's the point where the show really begins to suffer from Koyomi's actress being too busy with her idol career to put in more than token appearances. The core idea of Wiseman's plot is really solid, but it relies on the audience being emotionally invested in a character who got less screen time than the donut shop owner.
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01-22-2020, 10:57 PM | #86 |
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My problems with Wizard's ending is that it's the point where the show really begins to suffer from Koyomi's actress being too busy with her idol career to put in more than token appearances. The core idea of Wiseman's plot is really solid, but it relies on the audience being emotionally invested in a character who got less screen time than the donut shop owner.
I guess, for me, the finale worked since a) there were a bunch of other people (Wizard, the Mages) that got caught up in Wiseman's plot and I was into how they'd been manipulated, and b) I thought the limited Koyomi stuff really landed at the finale. The Koyomi death scene and the Beast "death" scene are two that I'd consider near the top of the mountain for Wizard. But, yes, obviously, if the donut shop owner had been imperiled, I'd be much more invested in the finale. That's Masked Belle Poitrine! She's a magical girl hero! I care a lot more about a masked hero than some mopey shop girl!
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01-22-2020, 11:05 PM | #87 |
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Don’t take the Koyomi thing as 100% fact. It was popular speculation at the time, but I don’t think we ever got total confirmation.
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01-22-2020, 11:19 PM | #88 |
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Still, she was great in the Net Movies. They were all great in the Net Movies. It sort-of breaks my heart that the Wizard Net Movies (especially especially especially the Medusa/Gremlin ones) are my favorite Kamen Rider anything, when Wizard is in my bottom tier of shows. Crazy how that worked out.
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01-23-2020, 09:27 AM | #89 |
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Good points! As someone who never warmed up to Fourze's design, yeah, Meteor is a much more interesting suit. No argument from me on that one.
I wonder if me not finding a lot in Meteor is down to how invested I was in the cast, and Gentaro specifically. It was hard for me to separate the needs of the plot (gotta have some conflict in the group) from my interest in core group. Like, Ryusei sneering at their lack of focus and demeaning Gentaro's warmth, like, screw you I love these guys. I guess it's not that he didn't have point, so much as I cared more about the rest of the cast than some secret-agenda interloper. Or maybe I'm remembering liking him less to be contrary? I don't know. I feel like I'm being mean to Ryusei and I don't 100% know why. I thought he was a good Rider! Fourze's a good show! I maybe could've done without what felt like a very long field trip to Ryusei's school, but I think he's a cool enough Rider. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! |
01-23-2020, 11:52 AM | #90 |
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I definitely understand why you wouldn't get into Meteor. Whenever I'm feeling the Main and the Secondary is introduced as anti-the-protag, they usually start off in the negative with me. While not a true Secondary, this is very much how I felt about TheBee when he was introduced in Kabuto (I won't say anymore about that, no spoilers).
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