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10-19-2015, 01:35 PM | #911 |
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The issue is that people think violence, language, and sex equate to a "mature" product. While these are mature and serious topics, just having them or amping them up doesn't mean the show or film will be mature. Too much violence and it becomes comical. Too much sex and its simply another part of the show that has no meaning because it is commonplace. Same with language. Use it too much and it loses the shock and power of it compared to using it every so often so that when somebody says something really coarse it has a meaning to it.
Simply put, people may think making everything uber dark, violent, edgy, and sexy will get them a better and more serious product. But it won't. If you want proof of that just look at Shin or how many other shows or films that try to do it but end up looking like try-hards.
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10-19-2015, 01:38 PM | #912 |
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The violence in the DB series was never that extreme (It's rated TV-PG for uncut, not TVMA). I see fans on Kanzenshuu that want to really push the violence to the next level just to be cool and edgy. Also I see some Digimon fans that want the series to be dark and gritty too.
or this I'm going to argue that their not in the wrong for thinking Super is being too soft. Depending on how far some fans are willing to go for "cool and edgy" is where I'll disagree, but Dragon Ball has a history of being more violent than what some people expect from a show.
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10-19-2015, 01:41 PM | #913 |
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The issue is that people think violence, language, and sex equate to a "mature" product. While these are mature and serious topics, just having them or amping them up doesn't mean the show or film will be mature. Too much violence and it becomes comical. Too much sex and its simply another part of the show that has no meaning because it is commonplace. Same with language. Use it too much and it loses the shock and power of it compared to using it every so often so that when somebody says something really coarse it has a meaning to it.
Simply put, people may think making everything uber dark, violent, edgy, and sexy will get them a better and more serious product. But it won't. If you want proof of that just look at Shin or how many other shows or films that try to do it but end up looking like try-hards. Honestly, I think the drive for "more mature" content comes from their regular censoring of things like One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh (though to be fair, it's a show about children's card games that sometimes takes itself a bit to seriously). The more you comically dial back some more serious topics, the more a certain crowd will demand them, even if their own ideas for what exactly is "mature" may be utter nonsense or excessive in amount.
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10-19-2015, 02:10 PM | #914 |
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Maybe some fans are going further than Toriyama originally intended, Lord knows I don't want to see people eating their victims or anything like that, but when their inspiration for such violence comes from stuff like this...
or this I'm going to argue that their not in the wrong for thinking Super is being too soft. Depending on how far some fans are willing to go for "cool and edgy" is where I'll disagree, but Dragon Ball has a history of being more violent than what some people expect from a show. |
10-19-2015, 02:18 PM | #915 |
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Then what are you talking about? Which I feel is a question we're always asking you. I'm not trying to be mean here, and I am certainly not trying to bully or pick on you. But you need to put more into your questions so we understand what you're trying to ask. Otherwise we're left to guess what it is you meant by your question. So what stuff were you talking about.
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10-19-2015, 02:26 PM | #916 |
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DBZ had blood moments, but still very tame compare to other anime/manga like Ninja Scroll and Hellsing. The DB series always have been market to kids in Japan since the 80's. My point is that they don't need to make things violent just to make sake of being violent. This goes for any franchise. I didn't like the loads of blood and gore in the PR fan film because Power Rangers does not need it. Even Super Sentai never got that violent.
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10-19-2015, 02:44 PM | #917 |
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I happened to like this. FYI.
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Then what are you talking about? Which I feel is a question we're always asking you. I'm not trying to be mean here, and I am certainly not trying to bully or pick on you. But you need to put more into your questions so we understand what you're trying to ask. Otherwise we're left to guess what it is you meant by your question. So what stuff were you talking about.
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10-19-2015, 03:01 PM | #918 |
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I was talk about a season could remind the old saban seasons.
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10-19-2015, 03:04 PM | #919 |
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You want old Saban? Saban was just as campy as today, if not more so. Only difference is that it had more teen angst because it was the 90's, and that was the thing at the time. And to further my point I should bring up shows like Dawson's Creek, 90210, etc..
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10-19-2015, 03:33 PM | #920 |
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