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04-25-2018, 10:30 AM | #11 |
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Mad Rogue reminds me of G3 from Agito in some way. The suit is okay, but not that great IMO. It would be cool if it's Utsumi, because the character deserves more screen time and if Gentoku isn't Mad Rogue that means he gets to keep his sick Lacoste suit.
Also, on the topic of Grease: I'm glad he isn't getting a new form. The one he has looks great, and I love that we can have a Rider who simply gets stronger by fighting instead of form-switching. Although Build always makes an effort to link a new form with some sort of growth, in the case of Banjou especially, I think they did well with Grease just getting stronger without needing a new form. |
04-25-2018, 12:18 PM | #12 |
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Kind of liking the Mad Rogue helmet. The eye shape is cool. Looks insect'ish to me. And I do like my Riders to remind me of bugs.
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04-25-2018, 12:26 PM | #13 |
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04-25-2018, 12:55 PM | #14 |
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I just noticed the bottle motifs on the helmet are a 90 degree rotation of the Build's helmet motifs.
Build has the Organic bottle represented on his left eye and the Inorganic bottle represented on his right eye. Mad Rouge has a Bat design on his forehead and Engine blocks as his mouth plate. As for the rest of his design. I'm mainly surprised by the all the white they added in, it doesn't look too bad in contrast to the black and the violet. But didn't the Mad Rouge images from the Q3 scans show his shoulder pipes were silver? |
04-25-2018, 02:23 PM | #15 |
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Man, I was a little on the fence with Mad Rogue, but seeing the suit has changed my mind. It looks amazing.
I really hope Mad Rogue is Gentoku. It makes sense from a story standpoint considering the fact that it's been shown that Gentoku is willing to work with anyone to achieve his goals, and seeing as Evol is fighting against the Nanba forces, it would make sense if Gentoku joined him. Also, it doesn't make much sense to me from a marketing standpoint to name one Kamen Rider "Mad Rogue" and the other Kamen Rider "Rogue." After all, they could have easily called Cronus "Chronicle Genm" and it would have still made sense from a story standpoint, but not for marketing. Plus, Utsumi has only been Night Rogue in one episode (in disguise) of the actual show and two parts of the Special episode. Considering the fact that Utsumi has also become Hellbros, I doubt that it means that Utsumi is the Night Rogue Representitive now. Then again, I'll probably be proven wrong. On one more note, I've seen some people online state that Mad Rogue is Utsumi because of his glasses gesture in one of the pictures in the scan. Firstly, Mad Rogue's right hand is just open in front of his face, not really doing the "pushing up glasses" gesture. Secondly, Utsumi actually did the "pushing up glasses" gesture as Hellbros, and it was with his left hand and never had the "open hand" gesture in front of his face. Again, I'll probably be proven wrong soon though. EDIT: Also this Last edited by PortalTron; 04-25-2018 at 02:29 PM.. |
04-25-2018, 02:25 PM | #16 |
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As for the rest of his design. I'm mainly surprised by the all the white they added in, it doesn't look too bad in contrast to the black and the violet. But didn't the Mad Rouge images from the Q3 scans show his shoulder pipes were silver?
Honestly, it's hard to tell. I think it's white but looks somewhat silver. |
04-25-2018, 02:45 PM | #17 |
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I really hope Mad Rogue is Gentoku. It makes sense from a story standpoint considering the fact that it's been shown that Gentoku is willing to work with anyone to achieve his goals, and seeing as Evol is fighting against the Nanba forces, it would make sense if Gentoku joined him.
On one more note, I've seen some people online state that Mad Rogue is Utsumi because of his glasses gesture in one of the pictures in the scan. Firstly, Mad Rogue's right hand is just open in front of his face, not really doing the "pushing up glasses" gesture. Secondly, Utsumi actually did the "pushing up glasses" gesture as Hellbros, and it was with his left hand and never had the "open hand" gesture in front of his face. And the glasses gesture is not the only piece of evidence (though I'll note Utsumi has done so with both hands, if not in suit). The scans keep his identity secret, but let know that he's somebody smart. They also have a couple of lines from him and these are the real giveaway: Mad Rogue uses "watashi" (as Utsumi does), not "ore" (as does Gentoku). None of it is anything like solid proof, but altogether it's very suggestive. |
04-25-2018, 02:59 PM | #18 |
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Thing is, these scans also confirm that Gentoku is properly joining the good guys, explicitly because they're joining forces against Evol. Working with (for) him would run contrary to his goals. He wants to rule Japan, while Evol plans to destroy the Earth. They're not exactly compatible motives
And the glasses gesture is not the only piece of evidence (though I'll note Utsumi has done so with both hands, if not in suit). The scans keep his identity secret, but let know that he's somebody smart. They also have a couple of lines from him and these are the real giveaway: Mad Rogue uses "watashi" (as Utsumi does), not "ore" (as does Gentoku). None of it is anything like solid proof, but altogether it's very suggestive. |
04-25-2018, 03:23 PM | #19 |
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Thing is, these scans also confirm that Gentoku is properly joining the good guys, explicitly because they're joining forces against Evol. Working with (for) him would run contrary to his goals. He wants to rule Japan, while Evol plans to destroy the Earth. They're not exactly compatible motives
And the glasses gesture is not the only piece of evidence (though I'll note Utsumi has done so with both hands, if not in suit). The scans keep his identity secret, but let know that he's somebody smart. They also have a couple of lines from him and these are the real giveaway: Mad Rogue uses "watashi" (as Utsumi does), not "ore" (as does Gentoku). None of it is anything like solid proof, but altogether it's very suggestive. |
04-25-2018, 03:28 PM | #20 |
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You're probably right. Although it stills confuses me that Bandai would want to market two separate Rider with such similar names. Also, it kind of confuses me that Utsumi would want the Earth destroyed as well, given that he works for/ brainwashed by Nanba, who've stated that they want to take over the world, not destroy it. Guess we'll see eventually.
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