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07-25-2022, 02:34 AM | #511 |
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Hello, Die. This might be my first reply on your thread. I have kept reading all of you and the other members' opinions from the start you made your Kuuga thread. So I guess an 'Iwae' toss for your accomplishment until today. Keep your love for Toku and stay healthy
I don't want to add fuel to the fire but I also want to criticize Aruto's inaction when Gai and Fuwa was fighting. It might just because some misdirections in the directing. Kamihoriuchi may has distinct directing that I love but... He's not the best when it comes fight composition. I question why they didn't just let Aruto use Metal Cluster Hopper here. For one, it gave more advertisement to a form that had just debuted before. You could just make the Panda Raider lost to Shining Assault Hopper, or even Rising Hopper. It doesn't even hurt to show MCH twice in the episode too. That or maybe Yuya Nawata was a bit busy during this week? One simple fix for that fight is simply having Aruto and Fuwa fighting together against Gai. This explains why Gai specifically used Horobi's Scorpion Progrise Key. He could make a feint attack one Aruto with that stinger attack when the actual target was Fuwa. When Fuwa loss, you could just make Aruto rushed to his side thus leaving room for Gai to confiscate the evidence. It's honestly disappointing that we don't see enough dynamic between Aruto and Fuwa after ep 25 where Aruto gave a token of friendship to Fuwa by throwing Authorise Buster. We need more than that. This is around the late 20s and by this point we had so many great interactions between the Main and Secondary Rider. This is at the point where Geiz admitted his friendship to Sougo, Banjo kept check on Sento in case of Hazard went berserk, Hiro called Emu by his 'literal' name and started being rubbed by Emu's earnestness. Sorry if this ended up like a bit of a ramble. But at this point, I want for the show to keep the rather good standard that have been set by previous series with the Main and Secondary Riders' relation. I know that Aruto and Fuwa's relation is more of a professional one. But, man... I wish Aruto and Fuwa was more buddy to each other, at least one the level of Geiz and Sougo. Still, don't be discouraged by my words, there are more people who still love Aruto and Fuwa's dynamic. I'm pretty sure either one of them would give a much better input.
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07-25-2022, 05:19 AM | #512 |
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My take on the Humagear design is that I'm so shocked SO-DO made it! It was maybe like the biggest surprise to me at the time? I'm pretty sure it was before they'd even started dipping into monster figures, and out they came with something that's quite staunchly not involved in fights, isn't a specific character and is hardly something that's overly appealing to kids. Just because it was a suit in the currently-airing Kamen Rider show! GOD I love SO-DO!
That shot of Fuwa pouring the bucket of water over his head is stuck in my mind. It was in the next episode preview too; why did he do that?! Love that guy
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07-25-2022, 05:51 AM | #513 |
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I would love for Fish Sandwich, DreamSword, anyone actually to come explain to me Aruto inaction in this episode and actually try to put a positive spin on that. Cause if you can tell by my tone of my voice from what your reading I'm not exactly happy right now remembering this. Easily one of the dumbest things to ever happen in this franchise frankly.
The fight between Jin and Thouser is cool atleast. Really liked that it ended in a draw. And the Sting Dystopia Jacking Break was cool(as they always are), but yeah, this was very much a case of plot contrivance.
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07-25-2022, 06:47 AM | #514 |
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It isn?t. He?s just falling into the usual issue people seem to have of ?two people/animated characters look alike/have similar names, ergo they must be the same person?. I?ve seen it several times on YouTube, with people assuming Superman TAS Lex Luthor was Tom Clancy, Batman TAS Two-Face was the same guy as Arkham City and Fowler?s superior in the second season of TF Prime was the security guard from the previous season (despite them not even sharing the same VA and how patently ridiculous that idea is)
Sorry, I must have gotten guests mixed up in my head, since I thought I heard something to that effect, but I guess I got that confused with something else. Thanks for the clarification, and apologies for the mix-up. |
07-25-2022, 06:47 AM | #515 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 25 - “I WILL SAVE THE HUMAGEARS”
It’s basically a clip show, something that leverages tons of old footage (including, sadly, a bunch of content from the Reiwa First Generation movie) to recap the surprisingly complex and sprawling plot of this series, as well as the journeys of individual characters. In a lot of ways, it’s an extended, less funny version of some of those recap HBVs. There’re weird, almost non-sequitur exchanges where characters get way too introspective and verbose in their responses and analyses (why in the world does Aruto stop to ask Fuwa about his dreams???), and a whole bunch of graphics that illustrate the various power bases of the series. Two-thirds of this episode is people standing around having things explained to them, and it’s mostly just clarifications. For other parts, this is the part that explains how Gai is not only about toxic egotism, his goal (or something more ambitious than just stroking his ego), is shown here in how he wanted to use Kamen Riders as weapons to gain profit. Previously too in ep. 25, he openly admits that the return of the terrorist group would be good for ZAIA since they could make more money selling weapons to AIMS. So what Gai wants to do is to launch war so he can gain profit from it, this'd be the real stakes of him gaining Hiden, and to me this makes his goal have resemblance to Namba's goal from Build. This part does show why Jin calls Horobi a father, he's literally made to be a father-type Humagear, and it's clear that Gai is also the reason behind Horobi's rampage. Horobi also had another opposite to Gai here, who looks 24 but is 45 year old, in how Horobi looks 20 but is actually 12 year old (as Humagear production). So Gai looks younger than he is, Horobi looks older than he is (as a robot). Quote:
Jin’s literally broken the chains of Humagear servitude, in look as well as in function. He doesn’t have to hide his identity from anyone anymore. He proudly displays his former bondage, to emphasize that it’s former. When he talks to Aruto about his future plans, it’s confident and clear: to free Humagears from humanity’s grasp. He’s going to save his people as Kamen Rider Jin. He’s not a villain, he’s a freedom fighter. His motivation is a twisted form of Aruto’s own heroism, and it’s incredibly intriguing. Horobi’s nonsense was always too smug and sinister to feel like it was a legitimate ethos, and Gai’s whole thing is about toxic egotism as a singular vision, so it’s nice to get Jin back as a sort of empathetic terrorist. Time’ll tell if he just degenerates back into a giggling psychopath, but I’m totally into this version’s point of view.
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07-25-2022, 10:00 AM | #516 |
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It's Episode 27!
-Yeah, the firefighting competiton is my favorite "battle" out of all these. It's such a good time, start to finish. -I amittedly dont have much to say about the second half other than I wasn't fond of it? It seems like everyone has aired out similar greviances. |
07-25-2022, 10:06 AM | #517 |
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Couldn't Aruto have used Freezing Bear to help douse the fire? I mean, he literally used the form in the last episode.
The effects of melted 119's body is absolutely chilling, yet inspiring at the same time. I don't know what I love more...Fuwa dousing himself with water and dragging Yua with him into a burning building to help people or the fact that he didn't even bother getting her wet before they didn't. Like it totally would've been in-character for Fuwa to just splash her and run with her, but it's kind of funny that he didn't. But yeah, their Rider suits probably would've been more safe, huh? I love how Jin and Thouser to a dual Rider Kick. We don't get to see that very often, but it's really cool. |
07-25-2022, 01:45 PM | #518 |
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And it's mostly just, Aruto figures that going in transformed with Freezing Bear will help, and Gai decides to follow him and Jack him of Freezing Bear to sabotage his chances at helping and to get that Jacking Break in. I feel like that would've been a much more solid and fresh idea for the whole "Aruto uses old form but gets jacked" concept. |
07-25-2022, 06:05 PM | #519 |
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My take on the Humagear design is that I'm so shocked SO-DO made it! It was maybe like the biggest surprise to me at the time? I'm pretty sure it was before they'd even started dipping into monster figures, and out they came with something that's quite staunchly not involved in fights, isn't a specific character and is hardly something that's overly appealing to kids. Just because it was a suit in the currently-airing Kamen Rider show! GOD I love SO-DO!
(It helps that it doesn't feel like we're getting a new suit for Zero-One or Thouser anytime soon, and Vulcan's got one or two left? Not a ton of superhero suits left on this series to make into toys!) Quote:
I can sort of see Aruto not using his abilities, since it might disqualify Hiden and lose them the contest. (Fuwa outright says that he doesn't care about rules, so the contest is irrelevant to him.) Because there's a crew of firefighters on hand, I think Aruto's less inclined to take over the rescue. If Homaura and/or 119 had failed, I think that's when Aruto would've stepped in.
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07-25-2022, 09:55 PM | #520 |
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I remember being really disappointed with these episodes when they aired. We'd gotten a nice break from the job competition arc and its repetitive formula of Gai cheating and Aruto utterly failing to have an effective response to it. You can add Fuwa in on this one, though, with his unfathomably stupid decision to tell Gai that he had the evidence needed to take him down. This is such a bad period for the show's two heroic Kamen Riders as the show goes out of its way to make them look like total morons.
The worst part of it all, though, is how the show approaches Gai by making him such an underhanded douchebag. I hate that about Gai because I think that he's right. His motivations and methods are completely terrible, but at the core I agree with him about the Humagears: they are innately dangerous. Yes, a big part of that is Gai's own fault because he sabotaged Ark like the massive fuckwaffle that he is, but that doesn't change the fact that so long as Ark is out there hacking Humagears, every singe one of them is a walking MotW timebomb. I wouldn't want my kids to go to basketball practice with a coach who might randomly turn into a monster and attack them. I know Aruto is very committed to seeing the humanity and potential in the Humagears, but he - and the show as a whole, by extentions - are ignoring a lot of very valid concerns. |
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