[wentwood]

The War For Cybertron is inetersting so far. I've watched the 1st 2 episodes.

Planning to see the rest soon.

[TokuKnight89]

Finally saw the newest Buzzworthy Bumblebee four pack at Target! They had three for $73 and they weren't all together. Two were with the clearance items and the third was with the Funko's! Didn't get it, but will attempt to later on.

[Matrixbeast]

I've still never seen a single 4 pack in Target.

[wentwood]

I'll be starting Transformers from the very first triple More Than Meets The Eye. I'll have Generation 1 in in a few days.

Due to the fact that Transformers after G1 is Trilogy can I start each one on their own?

I own both Transformers East (Headmasters - Victory) and The Unicron Trilogy (Micron Legend - Galaxy Force <English Dub>) on DVD.

Also could I watch Beast Wars and the others on their own in any order?

Thanks for the help on this. I was thinking of watching my sets on their own so I was curious.

[Fredbob392]

Transformers continuity is complicated. You start off with the four seasons of the original western cartoon. Then Headmasters takes place after season 3, instead of the American season 4. Masterforce is pretty much separated from anything prior, some Headmasters characters are mentioned or cameo, but you can pretty much watch Masterforce as it's own thing. It's also very different than most Transformers seasons, more about humans who becomeTransformers, with a strong focus on characterization. Victory is much more typical Transformers, though through a Japanese Super Robot lense. It's kind of the halfway point between the Transformers franchise and the Brave/Yuusha franchise Takara focused on in the 90s.

Beast Wars is... connected go G1. I don't want to say more, it gets into major spoilers. I'll just say that Beast Wars expects you to be familiar with the major beats of the G1 Cartoon. Beast Machines is a direct sequel to Beast Wars, definitely needs to be watched after. There's also the two Japanese Beast Wars seasons, Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo. I've only seen II, it's alright. Fun, but light on plot. Lio Convoy is great though.

Robots in Disguise (2001)/Car Robots is complicated. In the English version, it's it's own fully separate thing from any other Transformers season, while the Japanese version takes place in the Japanese G1 cartoon timeline, I think sometime after Victory? The JG1 timeline is nuts, though very fascinating.

The Unicron Trilogy is it's own unique thing in both English and Japanese. Only difference is that unlike Cybertron, Galaxy Force wasn't originally intended to be a sequel to Super Link/Energon, so the community between the two isn't as smooth as it is between Armada/Micron Legend and it's direct sequel

After that, anything goes pretty much. Almost every new series since Cybertron has been reboot after reboot. Only exception is what's known as the Alligned continuity family of Prime, Rescue Bots (Academy) and Robots in Disguise (2015). Prime and Rescue Bots take place at the same time, but Rescue Bots was aimed at a much younger audience, and it's plot kept separate from Prime. Robots in Disguise (15) is a sequel to Prime, and takes place at the same time as Rescue Bots Academy, a sequel to Rescue Bots.

I guess it's also worth noting that the Bumblebee movie and the upcoming Rise of the Beasts are prequels to the first five live action movie's, except they may or may not actually be a reboot. It's very vague

[wentwood]

I consider Headmasters Episode 01 as actually Episode 04. I feel that Rebirth Parts 1 - 3 sets up Headmasters as Optimus bites it in Headmasters 03. Which I just saw the other day. In 04 Rodimus takes over.

[AkibaSilver]

Uhhh considering the completely different origin stories and chaarcterisations given for the Head and Targetmasters I'm not sure how that works, at all. They were never made to fit together, "The Rebirth" wasn't even aired in Japan till 9 years later.

[Fredbob392]

Yeah, that really doesn't work at all. Headmasters in Japan are Cybertronians, not organics from Nebulon.

[TokuKnight89]

Yeah, Rebirth is a TOTALLY different animal compared to Headmasters! Don't even try to wank them together! It doesn't work!

Transformers, especially anything connected to G1, has several dozen different continuities. Don't go into it presuming that the shows are all connected to each other in a strictly linear fashion.

The Sunbow Cartoon in the West effectively ended with Rebirth (though Convention Exclusive comics like those of the Wings Universe would attempt something of an expansion...in a fashion).

The Japanese Continuity plays pretty straightforward, though the Movie didn't play in Japan for a couple years, leading to some continuity gaffes.

Scramble City, a Japanese Exclusive episode, bridges the gap between Seasons 2 and 3.

Season 3 in Japan takes place in 2010, not 2006 like in the West.

Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory effectively form a very loose "trilogy".

The one episode of Zone would end the animation side for awhile.

It should be noted that Manga and various print material occurs in and around this time. It would become increasingly significant as that was the only new material in the Japanese Continuity for sometime.

Both America and Japan have a version of G2, but it's distinctly different from each other and predominantly related to print material.

Beast Wars in the West is comedic and serious. Beast Wars in Japan is a virtual parody of itself! It should also be understood that Beast Wars doesn't follow any one G1 Continuity, but rather a hodgepodge of different things from the Sunbow Cartoon and Marvel US.

Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo form another branch of Japanese Continuity which has yet to receive an official Western release.

Beast Machines probably still has its detractors, but it does rely on things which were relevant in the Sunbow Cartoon.

RID 2001 is a virtual reboot and one of the first. Car Robots relys on interdimensional time travel to fit into the greater Japanese Continuity!

Armada and Energon omit key elements from Micron and Superlink, and Galaxy Force was originally a reboot even though Cybertron is directly connected to the other dubs despite some pretty big discrepancies.

Animated is its own thing, while Prime is largely in the very loose Aligned Continuity. Should be noted that Japan also did things differently with Prime by having a divergent anime!

RID 2015 follows Prime directly. Cyberverse is again its own thing.

Don't forget the cartoon shorts for Combiner Wars, Titans Return, and Power of the Primes!

The Netflix War For Cybertron Trilogy is also its own thing.

If you want to understand the absolutely confusing Japanese Continuity for G1 which is just a total mess of alternate dimensions, alternate timelines, and one retcon after another, look no further cause Takara-Tomy devised one awhile ago: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Generation_1...imeline_(Japan)

Good luck!

[wentwood]

The Headmasters do show up in Rebirth.

I feel like Rebirth and the first 3 episodes of Headmasters are a transition. These 6 episodes are considered a Passing The Torch connected or not. Sort of a transition to the next chapter of the story. In Headmasters after Rodimus leaves with his group then it switches to the Headmasters full on. We see Rodimus take over partly through Headmasters. So it's more of a two phase leadership change. Optimus for Rebirth and the 1st 3 episodes of Headmasters then Rodimus. Story connected or not it's a leadership change for the Autobots is how I look at it.