General Kamen Rider Thoughts

gashatfreak · 09-30-2022, 01:24 AM

So Sougo has been dreaming of becominga king all his childhood up to high school; does that make him a chuunibyou? (Before receiving his Zi-O powers)

Matrixbeast · 09-30-2022, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gashatfreak

So Sougo has been dreaming of becominga king all his childhood up to high school; does that make him a chuunibyou? (Before receiving his Zi-O powers)

No, it makes him an annoyance.

DH21965 · 09-30-2022, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

No, it makes him an annoyance.

Aaaaaand just like that, I laughed out loud at this LOL
AGREED

Mesnick · 09-30-2022, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

No, it makes him an annoyance.

To me, Sougo is a less charismatic and understandable version of Gentaro. That is, he is a schoolboy with a fixed idea, which all his friends consider idiocy, but gradually (and in fact quite quickly) are imbued with it. This never irritated me, if only because everyone around reacted to his statement quite realistically.

Jello · 09-30-2022, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

To me, Sougo is a less charismatic and understandable version of Gentaro. That is, he is a schoolboy with a fixed idea, which all his friends consider idiocy, but gradually (and in fact quite quickly) are imbued with it. This never irritated me, if only because everyone around reacted to his statement quite realistically.

I think the difference is Gentaro was always the heroic type, and the Fourze gear just boosted and gave him the means to carry out his ideals.
Sougo cements the 'heroic kind' type deal as a result of being faced with Rider things

basically Gentaro is by nature good, Sougo is good as a reaction

Mesnick · 09-30-2022, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jello

basically Gentaro is by nature good, Sougo is good as a reaction

Too active kings often did more harm than good

Jello · 09-30-2022, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Too active kings often did more harm than good

Switchblade · 09-30-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Too active kings often did more harm than good

I wouldn't trust Sougo to symbolically open a mall, much less make actual policy decrees.

DreadBringer · 10-01-2022, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jello

I think the difference is Gentaro was always the heroic type, and the Fourze gear just boosted and gave him the means to carry out his ideals.
Sougo cements the 'heroic kind' type deal as a result of being faced with Rider things

basically Gentaro is by nature good, Sougo is good as a reaction

Dunno which part of Sougo or journey do you refer here, but he does want to become a king so that he can protect his people (and I don't think it's a reason he gained midway, but just revealed later albeit predictable, ofc there should be a reason for him to be obsessively chasing after king position.... and Ohma Zi-O claimed he was protecting his people, though obviously his dark traits have consumed him to the point of delusion).

Otherwise, true that powers would be able to boost anyone to carry out their ideals. It applies to villains too, they're mainly dangerous due to the power they hold, not due to how evil they're, as, nobler villains like well-intentioned ones can create more damage if they're more powerful.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Too active kings often did more harm than good

Depends on what kind of active. Unfortunately, those positions don't exactly have an obligation to act good, like only doing the best for their people, or even their circle, everyone else be damned.

Jello · 10-01-2022, 06:48 AM

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Dunno which part of Sougo or journey do you refer here, but he does want to become a king so that he can protect his people (and I don't think it's a reason he gained midway, but just revealed later albeit predictable, ofc there should be a reason for him to be obsessively chasing after king position.... and Ohma Zi-O claimed he was protecting his people, though obviously his dark traits have consumed him to the point of delusion).

Otherwise, true that powers would be able to boost anyone to carry out their ideals. It applies to villains too, they're mainly dangerous due to the power they hold, not due to how evil they're, as, nobler villains like well-intentioned ones can create more damage if they're more powerful.

My interpretation of it all was Sougo saying "I wanna be a king" without any substance behind it, only to get slapped with the possibility he'll become a tyrant, and snapping to "I'll be the good kind of king" as a reaction

against Gentaro naturally being the hero

09-30-2022, 01:24 AM	#1081
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09-30-2022, 05:38 AM	#1082
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09-30-2022, 01:24 PM	#1085
Jello King of Souls Join Date: May 2020 Location: Georgia Posts: 826	Quote: Originally Posted by Mesnick To me, Sougo is a less charismatic and understandable version of Gentaro. That is, he is a schoolboy with a fixed idea, which all his friends consider idiocy, but gradually (and in fact quite quickly) are imbued with it. This never irritated me, if only because everyone around reacted to his statement quite realistically. I think the difference is Gentaro was always the heroic type, and the Fourze gear just boosted and gave him the means to carry out his ideals. Sougo cements the 'heroic kind' type deal as a result of being faced with Rider things basically Gentaro is by nature good, Sougo is good as a reaction __________________ Selling stuff, check out my stuff.

09-30-2022, 02:31 PM	#1087
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10-01-2022, 06:45 AM	#1089
DreadBringer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 1,021	Quote: Originally Posted by Jello I think the difference is Gentaro was always the heroic type, and the Fourze gear just boosted and gave him the means to carry out his ideals. Sougo cements the 'heroic kind' type deal as a result of being faced with Rider things basically Gentaro is by nature good, Sougo is good as a reaction Dunno which part of Sougo or journey do you refer here, but he does want to become a king so that he can protect his people (and I don't think it's a reason he gained midway, but just revealed later albeit predictable, ofc there should be a reason for him to be obsessively chasing after king position.... and Ohma Zi-O claimed he was protecting his people, though obviously his dark traits have consumed him to the point of delusion). Otherwise, true that powers would be able to boost anyone to carry out their ideals. It applies to villains too, they're mainly dangerous due to the power they hold, not due to how evil they're, as, nobler villains like well-intentioned ones can create more damage if they're more powerful. Quote: Originally Posted by Mesnick Too active kings often did more harm than good Depends on what kind of active. Unfortunately, those positions don't exactly have an obligation to act good, like only doing the best for their people, or even their circle, everyone else be damned. __________________ The most complete non-wiki encyclopedias for Kamen Rider series (currently only found Ryuki and OOO's).