[KaiserBlue]

Any news on if foreign fans can back the project and get at least the belt shipped to them? Really neat they got their r&d guy who made all the phase 2+ rider trinkets re-engineer the belt to respond to the sound in the show rather than CRT strobe effects. Love how they also gave it some CSM sound toggles.

[Frontier]

Looks like they're unveiling Kamen Rider Black Sun and Kamen Rider Shadow Moon tomorrow.

[OdieEsty]

real make or break here. black is one of the absolute best rider designs, probably the only rider to really capture how monstrous they all are under the helmet, but I'm also super excited at the prospect they'll find a way to make it look even cooler. Century and the next Revice design both look like home runs so fingers crossed.

[Kurona]

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Originally Posted by OdieEsty

real make or break here. black is one of the absolute best rider designs, probably the only rider to really capture how monstrous they all are under the helmet,

I agree with the general thrust of your statement here, but. Shin.

[OdieEsty]

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Originally Posted by Kurona

I agree with the general thrust of your statement here, but. Shin.

Shin's a monster in the more literal sense but it's also very basic. if you told someone to design a grasshopper man, that's what they'd make. Black looks sleek and cool but under his carapace you can what looks like burnt skin under the steam, it really drives home that it's a facade, a mask. Really makes my skin crawl. Shin is exactly what it looks like, and he's got this kind of disarming quality to him. His face looks kind of like a bulldog's and it's a little goofy in an ugly cute way.

[Kurona]

I feel that's mostly in his post-movie appearances; in Shin itself he is a lot more gruesome and slimy with the special effects work and everything constantly moving.

Either way, yeah; Black really sells the Masked Rider concept!

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by OdieEsty

Shin's a monster in the more literal sense but it's also very basic. if you told someone to design a grasshopper man, that's what they'd make. Black looks sleek and cool but under his carapace you can what looks like burnt skin under the steam, it really drives home that it's a facade, a mask. Really makes my skin crawl. Shin is exactly what it looks like, and he's got this kind of disarming quality to him. His face looks kind of like a bulldog's and it's a little goofy in an ugly cute way.

I feel that's really underselling Shin. The slimy coating over his rough skin, his bulging muscles and well designed head that features multiple moving points (And his signature split jaw), all topped off by a mild body horror transformation.

To me, Black is just armor with a muscular detailing beneath. Honestly, I don't even get a "Burnt" quality to him, since he's black with brown skin beneath his exoskeleton, a common color for grasshoppers and locusts.

[TokuKnight89]

What about the "Grasshopper Kaijin" form Black assumed in the first episode for all of two seconds before shifting to the standard appearance?

[OdieEsty]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

To me, Black is just armor with a muscular detailing beneath. Honestly, I don't even get a "Burnt" quality to him, since he's black with brown skin beneath his exoskeleton, a common color for grasshoppers and locusts.

its the weird texture of it. grasshoppers have a carapace which as far as I know is always smooth and solid. his armor follows that but the skin at the joints is weird and wrinkled. it gives the impression he's a giant scab and it's just broken at the joints when he moves. It's a little more obvious in the modern appearances, i think because chunks of it are missing so the undersuit is more exposed.

[Kurona]

Black's design in general has always had a slightly disturbing feel to it with the fleshy undersuit; I think it's part of what makes it perfect -- as OdieEsty says, it's a smooth and sleek beautiful design hiding a more monstrous reality underneath