[DreamSword]

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Originally Posted by KamenRanger1997

Those seasons still worked didn't they?

Yes, but I haven't really seen anyone say that this one won't? Moreso that they're just disappointed that Kyuranger won't be getting a standard adaptation, of which many fans wanted especially after the "Supernova" concept was made public.

[KamenRanger1997]

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

Yes, but I haven't really seen anyone say that this one won't? Moreso that they're just disappointed that Kyuranger won't be getting a standard adaptation, of which many fans wanted especially after the "Supernova" concept was made public.

This is the Internet. When someone says they're disappointed, it means they think its bad. People are calling them "lazy" for deciding to, film original footage rather than just dub over Kyuranger fight footage. How does that even make any sense?

[prfctcellrulz]

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Originally Posted by KamenRanger1997

Really? You think you can balance 12 rangers plus several villains AND returning characters in only 10 episodes without it feeling over crowded?

I KNOW I could! Hell, give Void Knight a redemption by making him Cosmic Fury Purple (Ryu Commander), there?s 7 right there. I?m sure they could easily make backstories for the others, like they?re from other planets such as Aquitar, KO-35, Sentai 6, etc., it could work!

[DreamSword]

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Originally Posted by KamenRanger1997

This is the Internet. When someone says they're disappointed, it means they think its bad.

Seems like an assumption to me but alright then.

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People are calling them "lazy" for deciding to, film original footage rather than just dub over Kyuranger fight footage. How does that even make any sense?

I'm not a mind reader, but from what I can tell this sentiment mainly stems from Simon Bennett's' statements on Twitter earlier this year that Kyuranger would never get adapted due to having "too many Rangers" with which to have a proper storyline/character development with, which in turn rubbed alot of fans the wrong way.

While I agree that I wouldn't call the crew lazy for creating original assets, I can see how it would be considered lazy in regards to cutting alot of Kyuranger content out; Essentially throwing it away rather than trying to work with or spin it in a new way as well as the new season being only 10 episodes when everyone is used to 30+.

That's just what I'm getting from people's' general response online though. Am I gonna still give the show a shot? Yeah, but I personally would've still preferred a more "traditional" adaptation, especially given the issues I have with Dino Fury.

[KamenRanger1997]

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Originally Posted by prfctcellrulz

I KNOW I could! Hell, give Void Knight a redemption by making him Cosmic Fury Purple (Ryu Commander), there?s 7 right there. I?m sure they could easily make backstories for the others, like they?re from other planets such as Aquitar, KO-35, Sentai 6, etc., it could work!

Paper thin backstory and making references to other PR stuff is not character or development. Even the old characters need to continue to develop or they'll feel pointless.

The way they're doing it gives them freedom to write a story that actually fits into 10 episodes. You're basically asking them to condense 40+ episodes of Kyuranger into 10 episodes. That's worse than what Megaforce did

[KamenRanger1997]

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Originally Posted by prfctcellrulz

You had ONE JOB Hasbro and you failed miserably.

I wanted a TOTAL adaptation of Kyuranger instead of this.

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

Seems like an assumption to me but alright then.

Not exactly an assumption when it's right there. And yes, this is only one person, but the sentiment is shared by others even if they don't use the same phrasing

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

I'm not a mind reader, but from what I can tell this sentiment mainly stems from Simon Bennett's' statements on Twitter earlier this year that Kyuranger would never get adapted due to having "too many Rangers" with which to have a proper storyline/character development with, which in turn rubbed alot of fans the wrong way.

While I agree that I wouldn't call the crew lazy for creating original assets, I can see how it would be considered lazy in regards to cutting alot of Kyuranger content out; Essentially throwing it away rather than trying to work with or spin it in a new way as well as the new season being only 10 episodes when everyone is used to 30+.

That's just what I'm getting from people's' general response online though. Am I gonna still give the show a shot? Yeah, but I personally would've still preferred a more "traditional" adaptation, especially given the issues I have with Dino Fury.

The problem here is people assuming it's bad just because it doesn't match their expectations, which is a bad mindset, imo, because how can a story surprise if it follows your expectations?

I had my own ideas on how to adapt Kyuranger and how to do an anniversary, but I'm not going to insult Hasbro and make nonsensical accusations of laziness just because their ideas are different and my assumptions were wrong

[DreamSword]

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Originally Posted by KamenRanger1997

Not exactly an assumption when it's right there. And yes, this is only one person, but the sentiment is shared by others even if they don't use the same phrasing

Sure, but that still doesn't mean that everyone who says they're not 100% thrilled by the scenario means that they think the entire show is bad or something of that ilk, internet or not.

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The problem here is people assuming it's bad just because it doesn't match their expectations, which is a bad mindset, imo, because how can a story surprise if it follows your expectations?

People like to have their expectations met. Do I personally think the show will be bad solely because of what they decided to do with the source footage? No, but I wouldn't blame anyone who felt disappointed in not getting what they wanted: A full on Kyuranger adaptation.

And maybe it's just our difference in circles, but I've more been reading people being upset about the concept rather than the execution, especially since the show isn't even out yet.

[prfctcellrulz]

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Originally Posted by KamenRanger1997

Not exactly an assumption when it's right there. And yes, this is only one person, but the sentiment is shared by others even if they don't use the same phrasing




The problem here is people assuming it's bad just because it doesn't match their expectations, which is a bad mindset, imo, because how can a story surprise if it follows your expectations?

I had my own ideas on how to adapt Kyuranger and how to do an anniversary, but I'm not going to insult Hasbro and make nonsensical accusations of laziness just because their ideas are different and my assumptions were wrong

Yeah, I could?ve phrased it differently, I apologize for that. But my response and stance on the matter stands, and I STILL believe Hasbro could make 12 Rangers work on a limited episode number.

[Pineapple924]

The new suits are fine, but I do feel like that they need more black or some sort of secondary color added to them. Green looks good, but Gold's legs are effectively just a single color all the way down.

The 10 episode limit is a bit strange to me, but I do remember hearing some sort of claim that supposedly the actors were only contacted about this season as Dino Fury's production was wrapping up.

[TokuKnight89]

I was originally thinking about quoting specific comments, but I think that's now untenable and unnecessary. I'll follow the trend and the scope and my own thoughts as best I can.

Using new suits makes a lot of sense to me, now more than ever. I blew through the remaining Dino Fury episodes and I noticed the same Neo-Saban trend: haphazard editing of Sentai footage. They try to mitigate the severity of violence by slowing the footage down and crudely cutting bits they don't want or can't use. Sadly, the quality of editing has gotten increasingly worse over the years. In the heyday years, they reused shots dozens of times and freely altered Sentai scenes on a dime. They've gotten lazier and more tempered. New suits means new battles and an ability to control the footage and the violence. Kids Show Violence has always been a hot button issue and I feel Neo-Saban followed that and wanted to play things safe. Disney was the same way, but they were much more willing to do original footage and they knew how to edit pre-existing footage.

Make all the comparisons to MMPR Season 2 you want, but I have come to an old age conclusion: they did Toei wrong!

The reason I say that is because of the deal involving Zyu2! Paying Toei for more original stuff and then dropping over half of it in favor of the Thunderzords is a shit move. Season 2 was also an example in bad editing. We praise that era, but it wasn't all sunshine and honey. They made serious missteps and they become more obvious with time. Even Season 3 and the Alien Rangers arc feels mismanaged.

Will they use all the Kyuranger Voyagers? Doubtful. New Dino Fury suits won't pair well at all and that's why this feels flawed. The lack of thematic cohesion is especially glaring, but I also wonder if we've been had! Think about Cosmic Fury Green and Gold, cause their weapons don't match well to anything in Kyuranger. They could use some of the Voyagers, but others could be custom to better match the suits. I also think that they could use some of the Kyuranger suits as power-ups or additional members. Don't panic and unclench your butt cheeks!

I also don't think that Zedd is the only Legacy Monster in the works! Too easy.

I will reserve judgement until I hear more and see more. Take Berserk. A lot of people were sad when the author died, but were hesitant when it was announced that new volumes would be released. I take the same stance. Concerned, but curious.