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03-10-2023, 11:31 PM | #1031 |
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No problem, I just wanted to make sure you had like, the best Saber experience ever and that meant having the most complete Desast experience you could. Which is why I wanted to make sure you could view Desast Walk as you went through the story as intended.
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03-11-2023, 03:39 AM | #1032 |
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Well, I have more to say about his one.
The song playing in the big fight, “Will Save Us”, was written by the director specifically because he thought the scene needed a sad song playing in the background, resulting in this being composed. Though as to why it’s sung by Mei’s actress - maybe neither Ren or Desast’s actors can sing? This is also the last episode to be written by Takuro Fukuda, in the rare instance of a Toku show having a different writer do the finale (with Metalder, B-Fighter Megaranger and Wizard being the others I can think of). In this case, it’s because the producer saw how well received the V-Cinema for Ghost was, and told him to focus all his energies on the one for Saber, to try and make it even better. Given the reactions on Twitter, I’d say it was worth it. Last edited by Androzani84; 03-11-2023 at 05:59 AM.. |
03-11-2023, 04:25 AM | #1033 |
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The main plot, pushed into the background, is also very good and dramatic. Starting with the scenes at the North Base, so contrast with the fun in the last episode. Ending with thousands of people caught in the book who could not be saved. Well, and a duel with the gained strength of Kharibder in order to comply with the norms of an action show. This episode once again casts doubt on whether Saber is really the most lightweight show of the Reiwa era. It also makes you feel that the finale is near, and with it the farewell to all the beloved characters of the show. Fun fact to defuse the drama a bit. Since the show did not show how Ren takes Kyomu after the battle, and this character has a lot of haters, I came across streams where the audience thought that he just left the magic sword of the void lying around in an empty warehouse. And only in this frame they realized that they were mistaken. Alright guys, even Ren isn't that reckless! Quote:
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03-11-2023, 06:20 AM | #1034 |
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The unlikely master and pupil relationship Ren and Desast had was one thing I liked as the show went on.
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03-11-2023, 06:50 AM | #1035 |
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Fish Sandwich also watched Kamen Rider Saber Episode 43
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Like, I'm not even sure what real insight I could offer about this episode, because it landed so well for people already I'd probably just be saying things everyone knows already. Funnily enough, though, one of the most memorable things in here for me is actually just Rintarou's little conversation with Luna. It's a scene that comes to mind a lot when I think of how much I love that dude, and the adorable light tone of it sticks out in an episode that's otherwise juggling both a very poignant story with Desast and majorly dramatic overarching Plot threads. Ryouga's trouble expressing gratitude is great too, but something about Rintarou being his usual not-suspicious self makes for a perfect bit of levity. Quote:
Oh, and just for the record, this episode is also the one before the crossover special originally aired, if that's of any real relevance, given how little the exact placement matters. It was very polite of Storious to delay his apocalyptic plans for a week to give everyone time for goofy spinoff adventures!
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03-11-2023, 10:11 AM | #1036 |
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So I'm just going to steal my own quote from nigh on 2 years ago now
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Also, disconnected to all that, is the redemption of two characters introduced in the whirlwind that was the first ten episodes, came off as pretty grating, and yet here I am watching their final fight together with silent affection. Dezast and Ren should not have been as fun to watch as they were. I shouldn't care about this C-tier villain whose only goal in life is to find satisfaction in fighting, because that's the only thing he knows and how could he want more, what do you take him for, and yet here he is, easily the stand out villain of the show. And he's not even realy a villain any more.
Also, Will Save Us is really good? Very haunting, lots of power in the vocals, and I think it works having something unique for the fight because of how little Ren and Dezast have to do with the rest of the SOL or Megid gang at this point. This isn't another point of Storious' apocalyptic tantrum, or Touma winning over Ren and Dezast to be part of his squad, this is just between the two of them.
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03-11-2023, 10:59 AM | #1037 |
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This is also the last episode to be written by Takuro Fukuda, in the rare instance of a Toku show having a different writer do the finale (with Metalder, B-Fighter Megaranger and Wizard being the others I can think of). In this case, it?s because the producer saw how well received the V-Cinema for Ghost was, and told him to focus all his energies on the one for Saber, to try and make it even better. Given the reactions on Twitter, I?d say it was worth it.
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Fun fact to defuse the drama a bit. Since the show did not show how Ren takes Kyomu after the battle, and this character has a lot of haters, I came across streams where the audience thought that he just left the magic sword of the void lying around in an empty warehouse. And only in this frame they realized that they were mistaken. Alright guys, even Ren isn't that reckless!
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Funnily enough, though, one of the most memorable things in here for me is actually just Rintarou's little conversation with Luna. It's a scene that comes to mind a lot when I think of how much I love that dude, and the adorable light tone of it sticks out in an episode that's otherwise juggling both a very poignant story with Desast and majorly dramatic overarching Plot threads.
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And yet, without making either of them really have a massive arc, or even one single inciting event besides "meeting each other", it's shifted them, not really away from those initial one-note characterisations, but just fleshed them out, added additional flavours like red ginger, and quietly given them room to work off each other.
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03-11-2023, 12:49 PM | #1038 |
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KAMEN RIDER SABER EPISODE 43 - “THEY CLASH, SEEKING VALUE IN THEIR EXISTENCE”
I love this haunting image of Desast’s conception of his death that debuted last episode, and I also love the accompanying image of Ren as a witness. Ren’s still processing what Desast is to him: a mentor? An aggravation? A warning? A friend? All of those? None of those? He’s here in this shot to try and understand what it might feel like to watch Desast die, and work backwards from that feeling to put a name on their relationship. Quote:
This whole introductory shot of the Sword of Logos is done backwards, which is really interesting. We get these contextless close-ups, and then we get the establishing shot. Beyond being nicely disorienting, I like how it reduces the scale back down to something intimate. We’re not as unfocused and spun-around as Ren, we’re with a cast who is completely focused on averting the apocalypse. Plus, it gives everyone a little bit of body language to establish their emotional levels re: Things Have Gotten Pretty Bad.
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I love how childish these shots make Ren look. There’s no heroism or elegance to his initial fight with Desast, only copied moves and pathetic tantrums. The shots here aren’t sweetening the emotions, or providing judgment – they’re raw and unsentimental. Ren doesn’t get to look like a hero, he gets to look like a petulant child that measures himself against everyone else. He wants to be more powerful Than. It’s always Than someone else. He can’t beat Desast because the fight itself means something to Desast, and Desast won’t believe in anything other than the fight. Ren will always lose because he needs something outside himself to grade him, to praise him. The power the other swordsmen have over Ren isn’t necessarily a creed or a code or an ideology; it’s the will to ignore what the world is telling them and fight for their own beliefs. The specifics of that are irrelevant. The power is in the resolve, and the hope that that resolve might be equal to the task.
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The camera’s mostly on Ren for Desast’s death scene, which is probably just how Desast would’ve wanted it. We’re here to see how Desast’s lessons have changed Ren, and how this scarred-up swordsman is able to process what’s going on. It’s all very closed-off and quiet, which is always the smarter way for these deaths to go, I think. Touma pawing at a dying Kento, I sort of bounce right off of. But Ren staring down at a dying Desast, honoring his friend by letting the fight just be a fight, that’s a gut punch if this show ever threw one. It’s these two weirdos having only swordfighting to connect them, but letting that be a relationship as resonant as a million conversations.
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The storyline with Touma and the returning Shindai Siblings (who were definitely not absent due to them filming a Zenkaiger episode) is your more traditional tokusatsu action extravaganza, but it’s no less entertaining for it. The shots vary between the exquisitely framed ones above – Touma rising up from the Shindais’ unwavering duty to express his eternal resolve, Touma as the new heart of the Sword of Logos – to slow-motion battles across staggering landscapes and sets. It’s jaw-dropping in how much it puts movie climaxes to shame.
Other than him actually trying it, I'd also think that after defeating Desast, Ren is no longer dismissive towards Desast where him rejecting his suggestion is not done out of shooing Desast away, but out of just the dislike of the red ginger, but admitting it sincerely to Desast of thinking it's not for him. Albeit Ren's taste was the right one, this can actually counteract Desast's dialogue of Ren being fine by himself, that, Ren is fine to not follow that suggestion from others like Desast himself.
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03-11-2023, 12:58 PM | #1039 |
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I guess it can be one at a time but changing as it goes with time, including Desast's change like Storious discarding him. Desast tries to corrupt Ren as someone with similarities, so it'd be kinda a "toxic" friend type (someone being rather "amicable" doesn't necessarily mean doing good to them... kinda like Woz to Sougo), but later he'd value him more to the point that he gets mad at Touma for "negatively" affecting Ren - of which Touma's words also got through Desast here.
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03-11-2023, 02:32 PM | #1040 |
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This was one of my favorite episodes of the season and I really enjoyed how much heart they put into Desast?s final battle. I also will forever resent the show for making me emotionally connect with Ren. That is an irresponsible use of the show?s most unsympathetic douchebag.
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