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04-18-2015, 11:01 PM | #1 |
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Does anyone else feel like manga authors are too quick to allow for an adaptation of their work to get released?
This might come off a little ranty, but I need to get these thoughts out of my head and express them somewhere I know people can respond and give their own thoughts about this. I've been contemplating on why manga writers continue to allow animes to be produced for their work, when they only got like only 30 chapters done and likely know that this will result in a break between seasons so that the manga can skip ahead. Sure they'll get money either way, and there will be fans who like the filler regardless of whether it's canonical or not, but in the other scenario it's brutal for your new found anime fans to be forced to wait a year or so to have the anime continue, all the while things like Naruto and One Piece continue non-stop no matter how close they are to catching up to the source material (or keeping the filler arc going when the manga finished, resulting in fans just wanting to get to the last arc already). I bring this up for a couple of reasons. One of them is that I've gotten to love Owari no Seraph, and I'll admit I only found out about the series because I watch the first episode of the anime, but I was able to speed read through the 31 (at the time) chapters available in little time flat, and now we're on episode 3 of the anime and apparently the manga is taking a break until May 3rd before it releases its 33rd chapter. I can foresee it either getting a filler season, or pulling an Attack on Titan and taking a year off before producing more episodes (which considering they're both produced by Wit Studio, seems to be an assured thing). Maybe some of you don't find this to be too bad a thing, but whatever happened to having at least 200 chapters between the latest chapter and the latest episode, so that the anime can end somewhat insync with how the manga was written, instead of hopping on the newest hit manga and trying to make a brief buck out of it? Akame ga Kill went from widely loved to widely hated/"the manga is better" by the internet because the anime caught too fast, and got what apparently is an edited version of the final ending planned for the manga. Fans of the series hope the manga will end differently, and considering Mine isn't dead, but just in a coma in the manga, there's a chance for this[spoiler(not even going to get into the Wild Hunt bit)[/spoiler]. It's not that fans weren't okay with the idea of the main characters dying, that was established early on. What pissed us off was the early deaths made us feel something, but the presentation of the last few deaths and the send off felt cheap and rushed (plus that final form was boring and bullshit, and yes the "manga did it better" in that case). Fullmetal Alchemist is a series I got into later than everyone else, but hearing the horror stories of the early anime (from those who read the manga), and having read the manga first when I started and doing so around the time that Brotherhood was starting up, I may have an unfair view on this, as there's nothing wrong with liking the original anime when it came out and still liking it today. I do still feel that it's better, if the idea from the beginning was to adapt a story and not just take the name and put an alternate spin on it, to actually keep to the story of the manga, not bridge off and try to fill in the gaps the author hasn't ironed out yet. One Piece has gotten to the point where they are literally a few episodes away from catching up with this drawn out Doflamingo arc. Magi's Kingdom season (the less I say about Magi's anime the more polite I remain) was almost snapping at the heals of the manga, as the anime ended in March and the Flashback arc was just starting around then (there was at least a After War arc in-between, but that could be collected into about 5 episodes tops). I think I'd just prefer it if anime's that ended up not following the manga started off that way, so that at least their different ideas could be doesn't fully, and not just feel like a last minute edit to someone else's story (making Envy "related" to the Elrics, I feel, takes away from his character, as they already have 2003Sloth look like their mom, and Wrath being the "son" of Izumi. How many of the bad guys have to have a personal connection the the heroes, why can't they just be independent? That choice isn't really something I like). What do you guys think? Of the shows you watch, which (if any) do you think were adapted to quickly, and what's you stance on all of this.
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04-18-2015, 11:37 PM | #2 |
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I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the conversation, but if i was a manga artist i'd wait a couple of years before accepting an adaptation just so it doesn't go through these problems that fast.
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04-18-2015, 11:44 PM | #3 |
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The original Fullmetal Alchemist show is still great despite Brotherhood being more faithful to the manga. Something can not faithful to the source material and still be good. The Shining and Men in Black come in mind.
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04-18-2015, 11:55 PM | #4 |
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Amen. No one in the industry seems to learn that. And really it's because fans are gonna be hype on an adaptation no matter what so animation companies try to score on the manga's newly found popularity immediately rather than wait on building a potential audience with the manga & then getting them interested with an adaptation. They wouldn't try it if they didn't get the positive responses fans give them. The more people wish that the current manga they're reading was made into an anime the more companies are gonna see it as a green light to make an adaptation.
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04-19-2015, 12:05 AM | #5 |
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And I would thank you.
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04-19-2015, 12:06 AM | #6 |
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I know MIB was at least based off the folklore of mysterious agent-like people. Is there something more to it?
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04-19-2015, 12:42 AM | #7 |
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Men in Black is based on a comic book from Aircel Comics. The comic book was dark and gritty which had pretty much little to no humor to it. The 1997 film was pretty much Men in Black in name only. The movie had nothing to do with the comic other having international espionage organization that wipes out Aliens on Earth.
Anyways, I do like my adaptions in general faithful or wise what's the point on adapting something if you are going to do something totally different. If you want do something different then don't make it adaption. That's why movies like The Lawnmower Man fails as adaption of the short story from Stephen King but works as a decent stand alone Sci-Fi movie in my opinion. |
04-19-2015, 12:53 AM | #8 |
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If the anime goes in it's own way and be faithful to the source material then I have no problem with it.
I love Akame Ga Kill Manga it's my top favorite manga of all time, I highly dislike the anime because it literally skipped like 10-15 chapters and then back jump 10-15 chapters where it was last at and do it's own thing. I can't appreciated that. Blue exorcist, was faithful and did it's own thing on it's 2nd cour which is fine with me because they didn't jumble around on what they wanted to do. Or Claymore where it was faithful till the end and ended the way it wanted to for the anime. That's ok for me, I got to see most of my favorite anime characters animated and staying true to their source material while allowing the Anime staff to do what they wanted to towards the end.
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04-19-2015, 02:06 AM | #9 |
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If the anime goes in it's own way and be faithful to the source material then I have no problem with it.
I love Akame Ga Kill Manga it's my top favorite manga of all time, I highly dislike the anime because it literally skipped like 10-15 chapters and then back jump 10-15 chapters where it was last at and do it's own thing. I can't appreciated that. Blue exorcist, was faithful and did it's own thing on it's 2nd cour which is fine with me because they didn't jumble around on what they wanted to do. Or Claymore where it was faithful till the end and ended the way it wanted to for the anime. That's ok for me, I got to see most of my favorite anime characters animated and staying true to their source material while allowing the Anime staff to do what they wanted to towards the end. I can speak bout the anime Rosario + vampire though the manga is in two season with season 2 being the final arc of the story in the manga. The anime only adapted season one manga changed thing and introduce character that was not in the original manga but was introduced in season two title manga. That bugs. I'm more a guy thT like a faithful adaption and not there own thing but that might be due to I can't help researching it then get out off it once learning it not being faithful.
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04-19-2015, 05:26 AM | #10 |
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This whole continuity issue has been a lingering problem ever since the walkman days as far as I can remember.
Even when I was a little kid I could not help but frown when they ended the anime incomplete/"open-ended"/with quickly wrapped up endings, or fed us filler eps so that the continuity gap is distant enough from the source material. But, on the bright side, some titles are gradually applying the seasonal format that most American shows follow these days, and I think it is great. Because it means less pressure for the source material creators and anime companies don't have to pump out that many fillers. At the same time, I can see why they try to get these adaptations out early sometimes, and probably because they want to ensure the source material is selling while it is still hot. Bottom line, I do hope that even if we still get anime adaptations early on in the story, the creators are wise about it i.e. season formats so that they don't repeat the cycle of finishing it off with an incomplete/"open-ended"/quickly wrapped up ending or the stampede of filler eps.
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