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08-12-2022, 09:58 PM | #751 |
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I mean, even then, it's a lot of conjecture, which does not strike me as the sort word Yua would want to see applied to her strategies. They didn't know Ark would turn into an unstoppable Kamen Rider that can materialize all of their weaponry, but they also didn't seem to have a clear idea of what would happen when the Ark was whatevered by MetsubouJinrai. It's a massive, largely unnecessary roll of the dice.
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The main thing I wonder about for Ai is the same thing I wondered about back in Episode 6: how does the AI feel about not having a body? Aruto's dream was for Humagears to live in harmony with humanity, but wouldn't humanity be a lot happier if Humagears didn't have bodies that could turned be into murderous monstrosities? Is a disembodied AI as good as a Humagear at realizing Aruto's dream? Is it not as good? This is kind of a massive change from the humanoid Humagears we've spent a season with, and I'm hoping that this time the show will interrogate that change a little.
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It's amazing to me that Aruto has known Fuwa for almost a year, and only NOW does he realize that Fuwa badly needs therapy.
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08-12-2022, 10:04 PM | #752 |
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Sure, or their specific role. A tennis coach is going to be a lot more effective with the ability to swing a racket, for instance. But, like, how does the Humagear feel about having a body? Do they care? Is it irrelevant to their self-actualization? This is the sort of stuff I'd like to see the show address if it's going to bring in a character like Ai.
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08-12-2022, 10:21 PM | #753 |
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Being completely honest... probably a step up from a lot of Kamen Riders. Aruto might be the smartest Rider in terms of like, mental needs so far. In that, you've got him trying to help a fellow Rider get therapy before the series ends. I feel like Fuwa's got it good compared to the many Riders both before AND after him!
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08-12-2022, 10:51 PM | #754 |
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Being completely honest... probably a step up from a lot of Kamen Riders. Aruto might be the smartest Rider in terms of like, mental needs so far. In that, you've got him trying to help a fellow Rider get therapy before the series ends. I feel like Fuwa's got it good compared to the many Riders both before AND after him!
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08-13-2022, 03:57 AM | #755 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 36 - “I’M THE ARK KAMEN RIDER”
Fuwa’s interest in his own normalcy isn’t hugely relevant to the battle against Ark, beyond his new-found appreciation for AIs, but even that’s both weird and sort of irrelevant. Weird in that, like, shouldn’t Naki’s journey have been more convincing to Fuwa than some $60 hunk of plastic that doesn’t even know him? Why does Fuwa spending an afternoon with a chatbot engender a fighting belief in Humagear destiny? (Which… this episode treats An AI Without A Body as some sort of breakthrough that Bot comes up with, but isn’t it exactly what Aruto did for the dad of the voice actor back in Episode 6?) And it’s irrelevant in that he was already going to kick Ark’s newly-constituted ass for multiple previously-established reasons, starting with Attempted Genocide and ending with Just Hospitalized Yua. Having him shoe-horn in some high-minded empathy is kind of distracting, and not totally earned. (That said, the stuff with his family is very cute. Some Dads Are Alive, and they are the source of Fuwa’s dopey sense of humor.) Quote:
The Ark stuff is a little dull to start, but I like where it ends up. The beginning fights, where the Big Boss has to show off its unstoppablosity – fine, whatever, I get it. Not my favorite mode of storytelling, but it’s how these shows have always worked. (I like it better when the villain has a strategy to negate the hero's abilities, or creates a trap that keeps the hero unsteady and ineffective. I don’t like the basic He’s Just Unbeatable approach.) And, gosh, I do not love that Jin and Yua’s strategy is the Metal Cluster Hopper -slash- Swartz strategy of empowering your adversary to ludicrous levels, and then just assuming you can stop them. Why in the world did the two of them think this plan would work?! I thought Yua was the smart one!!! But Yua immediately and correctly castigates herself for this boneheaded scheme, so I’m not super angry about it. Characters and plans can be dumb, so long as it’s acknowledged very quickly that they’re dumb.
Perhaps by this, someone shouldn't be judged by their outer demeanor/impression? Sure, Yua from the outside (especially at debut), would feel like the typical competent person that they're usually portrayed as cold, aloof, stoic, ruthless, etc. portrayed as professionalism which Yua had, but yeah she's not the hypercompetent everyone-carrier (like to Fuwa, even if him playing by his own rules can cause problems, but not for him breaking open Progrise Keys, if he can, just let him) expected from her demeanor. Competency isn't about having cold demeanor, and for the opposite, coldness isn't inherent competency too. It's a sudden idiotic moment for Jin though to think Ark-Zero can be destroyed with physical body. And as said before yeah, Jin had turned good now to foil Ark and ZAIA's palns, and getting Yua (another human) to hospital. Jin was still anti-villainous in his revival to take care of Humagears, but invade humanity, while having soft spot for Aruto. It's unknown when he had planned to be a double-agent against Ark, but the time he began that was the part he became good (probably the part he suddenly supported MetsubouJinrai.net again after ep. 35). Unfortunately though, Jin becomes the primary target for Ark to possess with, due to him being immune to Azu taking his Singularity (good explanation from you btw about why Jin may've been immune unlike others). Quote:
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE SO-DO AI 09: KAMEN RIDER ARK-ZERO
Pretty great suit? Beyond the kind of Body Horror feel to its unfinished state, there’s a ton of fun details to this physical manifestation of hatred towards humanity. The one red eye, to signal that this is The Ark who’s addressing you; the wires snaking out, like the cables in the MetsubouJinrai hideout/clubhouse; the creepy half-grin; and all the Zero-One But Painted Black notes under the surface, to show you what the Ark is trying to combat. Smart suit, creepy as hell, definitely like looking at it. Quote:
Being completely honest... probably a step up from a lot of Kamen Riders. Aruto might be the smartest Rider in terms of like, mental needs so far. In that, you've got him trying to help a fellow Rider get therapy before the series ends. I feel like Fuwa's got it good compared to the many Riders both before AND after him!
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08-13-2022, 04:19 AM | #756 |
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I really liked the conclusion of Fuwa finding his family - the bit about his dad is ESPECIALLY cute - but everything about AI makes me groan and hold my head in my hands even though I'm very certain it's an artefact of covid requiring them to speedrun some things. I still don't get though why they thought this was the superior narrative choice than having Fuwa, like... talk to an actual person, or why in-universe Aruto thought it was a better idea to cook up an Alexa instead of talking to Fuwa himself. Just... fascinating decisions all across the board, here
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Also, maybe I'm misremembering, but I don't believe that Ai was created for Fuwa specifically? Aruto made her as a way to help people have someone to talk to in general.
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08-13-2022, 08:07 AM | #758 |
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I'll be real when I say that when it comes to talking to like disembodied voices across the web in Voice Calls... uh... it's very helpful in like wanting to open up? Compared to say like doing it via video call or talking to someone in person.
As a very introverted person who doesn't really like interacting with people, it helps a lot. Just having a friendly voice to talk to and chat about stuff with, I can probably let out stuff a lot more than I would talking to someone through normal means. So I can see the thought process behind Aruto's decision here. I already know why people aren't exactly keen on AI-chan though, so it'll be fun to get there when we get there. |
08-13-2022, 09:21 AM | #759 |
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Also it's the fact that Fuwa is being helped by what is, effectively, a Humagear.
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Sure, or their specific role. A tennis coach is going to be a lot more effective with the ability to swing a racket, for instance. But, like, how does the Humagear feel about having a body? Do they care? Is it irrelevant to their self-actualization? This is the sort of stuff I'd like to see the show address if it's going to bring in a character like Ai.
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08-13-2022, 02:28 PM | #760 |
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I still don't get though why they thought this was the superior narrative choice than having Fuwa, like... talk to an actual person, or why in-universe Aruto thought it was a better idea to cook up an Alexa instead of talking to Fuwa himself. Just... fascinating decisions all across the board, here
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