[Sunred]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

It's truly genius how personalized Touma's reconciliation with each rider was. It was there that it was revealed how much this show appreciates and understands each of its characters.
Also, don't forget Mei. It is very rare to make the only ordinary person in the main cast an important and necessary character.

Yeah, and him getting back the riders under one banner was just the payoff I wanted and got.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Hot take, maybe, but I thought Geats was the best Takahashi show since Zero-One.

I would go further and call Geats the best show overall since Build.

Geats was pretty much perfect IMO, the final endgame dragged and went nowhere for a bit but otherwise: Awesome stuff.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I wish I had the fortitude that Saber fans have, because I'm currently on my 3rd attempt at watching Saber, and I'm always just so confused

I feel in the minority nowadays, which is good all things considered, but Saber did nothing for me. More so, I actively disliked it.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Hot take, maybe, but I thought Geats was the best Takahashi show since Zero-One.

Honestly, I think Geats is the worst Kamen Rider series to air in 2023 so far.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Honestly, I think Geats is the worst Kamen Rider series to air in 2023 so far.

[JusticeMagnum]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

I would go further and call Geats the best show overall since Build.

Geats was pretty much perfect IMO, the final endgame dragged and went nowhere for a bit but otherwise: Awesome stuff.

Its funny you mention Build because my feeling towards Geats are the same as my feeling towards Build: Both are incredible shows that stumble a bit in the late 30's early 40's (Build a bit more so imo) but both ultimately stick the landing beautifully.

[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by JusticeMagnum

Its funny you mention Build because my feeling towards Geats are the same as my feeling towards Build: Both are incredible shows that stumble a bit in the late 30's early 40's (Build a bit more so imo) but both ultimately stick the landing beautifully.

And I think both can be opposites regarding that - also perhaps funny. Both shows are 2 of the fastest-paced Rider shows, but Build can feel like it's been completed midway thus the stumble is about dragging, while Geats can still feel lacking, thus the stumble is about being rushed, only featuring "necessary" scenarios to stick the landing.

Geats as a whole is practically Gaim + Ex-Aid though. Also same producer and writer.

[Matrixbeast]

I feel, regardless of Geats' ultimate quality, it still completely cascades Revice, a show that basically went from bad to shit after Hiromi was written out, and Saber, a show I've never been able to watch 10 episodes of before dropping it on 3 occasions.
Zero-One is mediocre, but I'd probably rate it above Geats, though.

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

I feel in the minority nowadays, which is good all things considered, but Saber did nothing for me. More so, I actively disliked it.

I'm glad people enjoy Saber.
I am not one of them. I'm honestly just trying to watch it for completions sake

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Revice, a show that basically went from bad to shit after Hiromi was written out

Well, given that Hiromi wasn't supposed to survive the first episode, Revice just went back to the original script. By the way, this made me wonder if Shiro's silently swallowing Michinaga's accusations was due to the fact that the show's crew didn't want another unrecorded audience favorite to be thrown into the story. Especially considering that the comments towards Shiro after the first episode are very supportive. Although the reason for this, most likely, is not so much a character as a bear helmet.

[Matrixbeast]

I was gonna comment that it's kind of clear Revice's original story was bad, but then I remembered.
Like, every time I heard an update on Revice, it was how the script had been changed again.
Hiromi surviving and becoming Demons, George becoming less antagonistic, Daiji being pulled in every different direction, Daiji and Sakura getting final forms, basically everything about Over Demons, etc etc

I think the only other show that suffered from worse forced rewrites was Hibiki

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I think the only other show that suffered from worse forced rewrites was Hibiki

I would say that Kabuto got hit harder. But in his case, as in the case of Hibiki, it was the idea of ​​changing writers halfway through that failed, which saved Blade. In Revice's case, it was wrong to put newcomer Kinoshita as head writer on a show that rewrites... well, constantly. Perhaps he should have worked as an additional writer for a few years before getting his own show. Basically, as Hasegawa did with Gotchard.