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08-01-2022, 09:51 PM | #641 |
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So this whole thread, I've been wanting to chime in and say how much I loved Zero One's characters and story and designs. But I could never think of anything to say about any of it that someone else hadn't already said better than I ever could. But now with this arc with Naki and Delmo and everything, I finally have something original to say.
When these episodes aired, I'd been thinking about who I am for a while. Then Delmo's whole thing about being absolutely confidant in who you are, and the stuff with Naki deciding their own purpose. And I read how the writers made Naki not have a gender to be like their actor. And then I guess something klicked? I realxeyes-ed I can just be like that, be 1000% percent myself, and well, I've been happier with myself since then. I guess these episodes (and this show by extension) changed my life? So yeah, I guess that's my story with Zero One and Naki and stuff. Also sorry about those probably-overused puns at the end there. I couldn't help it.
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08-01-2022, 10:49 PM | #642 |
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At least she was smart enough to give herself an extra couple years to get it, compared to Aruto's deadline! She's really the sensible one, in character or out!
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So this whole thread, I've been wanting to chime in and say how much I loved Zero One's characters and story and designs. But I could never think of anything to say about any of it that someone else hadn't already said better than I ever could. But now with this arc with Naki and Delmo and everything, I finally have something original to say.
When these episodes aired, I'd been thinking about who I am for a while. Then Delmo's whole thing about being absolutely confidant in who you are, and the stuff with Naki deciding their own purpose. And I read how the writers made Naki not have a gender to be like their actor. And then I guess something klicked? I realxeyes-ed I can just be like that, be 1000% percent myself, and well, I've been happier with myself since then. I guess these episodes (and this show by extension) changed my life? So yeah, I guess that's my story with Zero One and Naki and stuff. Also sorry about those probably-overused puns at the end there. I couldn't help it. These shows... I mean, they're so good about creating safe spaces to talk about how to be a good person and, maybe more importantly, how to be a happy person. It's that Kuuga thing about Protecting Smiles, you know? That theme is baked into Kamen Rider now, and every show needs to spend at least a little time talking about how to be your authentic self, and not let the world make you unhappy with whoever that is. Faiz is still my go-to for Kamen Rider shows that want to discuss how to (or whether to) be a part of society when you feel like it's unwelcoming, but this arc of Zero-One... man! So smart in how it's trying to decouple other people's acceptance from personal happiness. I can see why this show spoke to you!
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08-02-2022, 05:36 AM | #643 |
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Wolves just kind of have a thing about protecting dreams in Kamen Rider, I guess
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08-02-2022, 07:54 AM | #644 |
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Yeah, I mean... a few bum episodes per series aside, I genuinely enjoy all of these shows. I can't think of a single series I've watched for Kamen Rider that didn't have something to praise, or an idea that was intriguing to dissect, or a character that I responded to. I'm honestly a real easy mark for these shows?
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08-02-2022, 08:59 AM | #645 |
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Gosh! Finally able to catch up after been busy a few days ago. I will try to keep it as short as possible because my real meat is going to be next episode. These few episodes made me realize that maybe Zero One is more suited for this single adventure one-episode formula, especially in ep 31. However, that by no means the Job Arc was a bit of let down because of the two-parter formula. That arc has some missteps outside of its two-parter formula. This continuous episodic formula that harkens the early phase of Zero One seems to be the most effective and the most enjoyable experience for audience.
Unlike most people who easily put ep 29 as their favorite episode, if you ask me, ep 30 is my most beloved episode of Zero One. Even if Aruto lost last week, there’s some aura in this episode where I felt Aruto had more freedom and less restrain than several episodes ago. Even in suit, there’s not a single of hesitations when Zero One beat Thouser. It was as if Takahashi and Shibasaki told Fumiya to just a bit more relaxed during the shooting and let Yuya Nawata to wreck a havoc and pull his max potential during the fight scene. All in all, up until this point, I can confidently declare that this episode had the best show off for Aruto both in and out of suit. The next two episodes are just your typical solid episodes of Zero One. Those two are a complete solid of episode. I appreciate that they didn’t give two-parter again after the Job Arc. Honestly, I was also as surprised as Die when they could still pull their groove back by going back to single episode adventure. Constant beating of Gai can be a deal breaker here. After experiencing Cronus beaten up for several episodes, I was worried if Takahashi would make the same step. Still, I’m glad you and the others enjoyed Gai beaten to the pulp for these episodes. I just enjoy how many times that shoved Gai’s tattered clothes for these couple of episodes. That’s some dedication in the make up department.
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After experiencing Cronus beaten up for several episodes, I was worried if Takahashi would make the same step. Still, I?m glad you and the others enjoyed Gai beaten to the pulp for these episodes. I just enjoy how many times that shoved Gai?s tattered clothes for these couple of episodes. That?s some dedication in the make up department.
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08-03-2022, 10:59 AM | #647 |
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If you want some statistics, I can list how many times Cronus was beaten in Ex-Aid: - Ep 36 : Beaten on Hyper Muteki's debut. Duh - Ep 37 : Almost beaten by Muteki, Lazer and Poppy but stopped halfway - Ep 38 : Beaten by Muteki and Taddle Legacy - Ep 40 : Bombastically defeated by Ex-Aid and Para-Dx - Ep 41 : Lost to Graphite and to add further salt, also lost to Muteki again after the heroes countered his Reset ability - Ep 42 : Wasn't defeated as Cronus but Masamune still had a lost because Gamedeus was beaten here - Ep 43 : Beaten by the three main Riders even after having a power up - Ep 44 : Even as a big Gamedeus, he still lost to Level 1 Riders - Ep 45 : The finale so... A big defeat for Cronus Well, try to interpret that as you want whether if it was repetitive or not.
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08-03-2022, 11:16 PM | #648 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 33 - “ARE DREAMS REALLY THAT IMPORTANT?”
This is a show about dreams, which is why it never felt like Yua fit in. It’s not that she didn’t have a dream in the same ways that Fuwa didn’t have a dream. She wasn’t consumed by rage, unable to see beyond the horizon of her hatred. She was too pragmatic for that. She’s an engineer. She understands technology, and how it can assist humanity. But, like, assist humanity the way a traffic light does, or the way an electric toothbrush does. She creates technology that makes human beings safer, or more productive. That’s it. She doesn’t make technology that emotionally or psychologically enriches human lives, because that’s unquantifiable. She follows the data, and works to make things more efficient. Humagears were dangerous, so they needed to be stopped. ZAIA Specs were safer, so it was only right for her to support Gai’s takeover. The world is a place with cause and effect, but everyone she fought was arguing for unverifiable phenomena; for wishes instead of results. She was never a villain, she just couldn’t understand the value of fighting for a dream. So Yua probably found the last dozen episodes as frustrating as we did, with everyone around her agitating for a response she couldn't give. Everyone’s shouting at her about dreams, and that’s not her. They’re decrying tools, but tools serve a reliable purpose. Tools are dependable, while dreams aren’t. Fuwa and Aruto kept pushing her to define herself by their terms, by their metrics. She couldn’t care less if people are sad about their robot friends not being around, because sometimes that’s the price of progress. Better solutions inevitably disadvantage the opposition, and folks will cry about that. It doesn’t make it any less important to make technology safer for the public. And that’s been the one constant for Yua since the first episode: technology should always make the public safer. We’ve been wondering for a while what would be the straw that broke Yua’s dedication to ZAIA and Gai, and it’s the most obvious thing in the world. When she sees that Gai is using technology to make people less safe – to actively harm someone like Fuwa – she’s had enough. It’s not about the theories or the possibilities or the dreams. It’s about seeing her technology be used to hurt people, right in front of her, and saying No. Gai’s done a million shitty things, but they could all be couched in the idea of a safer, more productive humanity. With the reveal that he’d psychologically tortured Fuwa just to make him into a weapon, Yua’s seen enough. There’s no alignment between her worldview and ZAIA. She can’t continue to work under someone who fundamentally doesn’t care about who his technology harms, since it’s the biggest thing she cares about. This is a show about dreams, but dreams need to be tempered with an awareness of the world around you. Characters like Fuwa and Aruto can bet their lives on optimistic empathy, can tilt at Thouser-shaped windmills, and probably win the day. For the rest of us, we need to make sure our goals are achievable. We can pursue a goal without trying to make a dream come true; knowing the difference is sometimes the only way to succeed in this world. A character like Yua is here to show us that a little pragmatism might be the missing ingredient to a story about living in a way where everyone gets to be happy.
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08-03-2022, 11:26 PM | #649 |
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So yeah in hindsight with this episode, very much, I saw what they were trying to do with Yua in the long run in terms of Episode 1 to now. Was it a completely bumpy road with a lot of frustrating moments? Yeah. But I think you put it best in that Yua doesn't exactly fit in with our main Rider duo, and that really makes her stand out tbh. It's really hard to word anything else because I honestly think you hit the nail on the head about Yua this episode.
Other notes is while I don't think our Humagear this week was too incredible, he was charming in little scenes. Like Love-chan being like "I want to compete in contests!" only to deflate when Izu tells him that's illegal but then the kid who threw him out going over and being like "Hey don't worry, you can still apply for the coaching positions". Thought that was a really cute scene. I also like how far Fuwa's come when it comes to this episode, well aside from the sudden revelation that part of his life is fake (which has divided a lot of people on whether it was necessary or not), but the first scene being him delivering a Humagear to Aruto. He plays it off like it's no big deal and he's doing his job, but would the Fuwa from Episode 2 have done that? I don't think so, so it's nice to see. Also I know you dislike Thouser getting owned every week, but I feel like this one was at least special. We get to see Vulcan and Valkyrie back together again, doing combo's with each other. Like that cool running around shot with Valkyrie leaping over Vulcan while their pelting Gai with everything they've got. Then that final finisher with her in Lightning Hornet, might be one of my favorite finishers in the show? Like, I always talk about mixing finishers and this is one of them. Yua going for a Rider Kick, realizing that's not going to cut it and then shooting Gai in the face at near point blank range? Really good! |
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Also I know you dislike Thouser getting owned every week, but I feel like this one was at least special. We get to see Vulcan and Valkyrie back together again, doing combo's with each other. Like that cool running around shot with Valkyrie leaping over Vulcan while their pelting Gai with everything they've got. Then that final finisher with her in Lightning Hornet, might be one of my favorite finishers in the show?
Like, I always talk about mixing finishers and this is one of them. Yua going for a Rider Kick, realizing that's not going to cut it and then shooting Gai in the face at near point blank range? Really good! I thought this one was pretty great, front to back.
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