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#17991 |
Henshin Heaven
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Inside a Hyper Battle Video, help.
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Man, I've been a fan for a little bit over 10 years and have yet to re-watch anything sentai or rider (aside from re-watching Shin Kamen Rider, since the first time I saw it was in theaters in Japan and didn't have subtitles)
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#17992 |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,035
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The reason I wanted to rewatch OOO, and W before that, because I wanted to take a bit of a break from watching from the Kamen Rider seasons that I haven't seen before especially after watching Decade for the first time. I am planning to head back to new territory (at least for me personally) after I am finished rewatching OOO (and possibly Dragon Knight as well) with either Ghost or Revice. Anyway, I have already pass through the first eight episodes of Kamen Rider OOO.
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#17993 |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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I am now four episodes away from finishing up on my Kamen Rider OOO rewatch and for some reason, I also have a minor urge to potentially do a rewatch of Fourze despite my plans to finally start watching either Ghost or Revice.
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#17994 |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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Just finished my rewatch of Kamen Rider OOO. I even watched the Director’s Cut version of the show’s final two episodes.
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#17995 |
Standing By
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 2,483
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I watched Gotchard Graduations!
When it was announced, I joked that Spanner would also do something, which turned out to be the whole point. While Houtarou, Rinne, Kajiki and Seina graduate from Furasu, Sabi and Renge graduate from Alchemy Academy and Minato and Kyoka graduate from being single, Spanner is the only one not graduating from anything and feels like he's being left behind. Just like Geats Jyamato Awakening, the gloomy tragic antihero is once more the main focus character of this V-Cinema. Minato told Houtarou that his sentimentality about leaving is due to him having a fulfilling school life which gave him a Gotcha to motivate him to continue with the rest of his life. Spanner doesn't have anything like that. Despite his best attempts to push people away with his edgy behavior, he ended up making friends anyway and now that they're all going their separate ways, what's left for his future? Between this and his spoilery position in the poster, it wasn't surprising to me at all that he was the host of Ouroboros, the one resetting the time loop to prevent Spanner from having a future. There are probably a lot of people who feel like Spanner, like me actually, who didn't have the fulfilling school life that Houtarou was fortunate to have. It's a mix of gladness and envy for those who are able to find out their Gotchas so easily. But the concept of eternity, of preserving one moment forever, it's the same as Geryon's world of gold. It's pointless. Spanner doesn't want that. He wants to live, even if he doesn't have a reason right now, he knows that something will happen. It's fitting that something as simple as turning up for Kyoka's and Minato's wedding is enough to motivate Spanner to escape from the eternal dimension, which reminds me of Yuki Gai. We finally got confirmation from the man himself that Spanner "forgetting" Bolt wasn't the result of memory loss. He was literally just being an a**hole, which to his credit he apologizes for. Too bad for Bolt that Spanner getting dragged out of present continuity renders it a non-canon event, causing him to continue his petty revenge. Oh well. Of course, the B-plot is still focused on our two main graduates. Some people thought the appearance of Rinne's love confession was going to get subverted, which it did, but also not really. She confessed she was going to study abroad in the UK (I guess they have an alchemy branch there?) and Houtarou bid her good luck. But Rinne's elated reaction to Houtarou adding that he'll be lonely (surely a big shot alchemist who made a whole planet can just teleport there whenever he wants?) strongly implies that she was gauging his interest in her. Considering how Producer Minato compared them to Sento and Ryuuga, this seems pretty deliberate. Overall, a pretty good epilogue to the Gotchard story, which for a V-Cinema stays faithfully close to the presentation and tone of the show. I was also wondering if we'd get the origin story for Spanner's black flames and while it's not exactly stated, I think it might have something to do with the paradoxical nature of the Ouroboros, like, maybe Spanner getting hit by that beam 6 months ago somehow gave him those powers in the past? Just a headcanon anyway. No Movie War this year apparently, so I hope to see all these lovable characters in some future crossover. The Hopper1 Spring Break prequel was cute as well.
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#17996 |
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#17997 |
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At the very least, Rinne will definitely appear in Majade Remix. Plus, there are rumors of a Dark Sisters special or something similar. As for Graduation, it's a nice epilogue to the main show, simple but very heartfelt. I also really liked that it's not just a story about the main cast. There was room not only for the important Bolt, but also for Seina and the comedy duo. This helps maintain the feeling of one big world. Graduation also gives the necessary finishing touches to Spanner's character. And of course, it was great to see the Chemies having fun on their planet. I hope I'll be lucky enough to see the planned Hotaro restaurant as a link between the two worlds someday.
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#17998 |
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#17999 |
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Except that no, we don't. The innocent should never be held responsible for the actions of the guilty. Are there fans who send death threats and the like? Yes. But that doesn't mean that you or I or the vast majority of viewers do and as such we should not be held in contempt.
About holding innocents responsible, I quite often see people in fanbases who do that, but those are seen as fine as it's socially acceptable, like those who harass fans who do powerscaling or like a show they refer to for toxic fanbase due to the toxic experiences they get from them. There are also those who hold that the public figure said toxic fanbase are fans of, and blame them for said fandom's actions, despite the public figure not necessarily being in control of their actions (individual's actions are something out of one's control). And those aren't viewed as guilty by others (so, innocent status), but can get supported, due to the feeling that they deserve said treatment (lowkey a prejudice). This is a smaller scale, compared to well-intentioned extremist villains who paint themselves as the agents of long overdue change, but these kinds of fans can also justify themselves in a similar way to them (and there are fans who defend said villains). They don't see their action as "harassment" but as "heroics". They deem their actions as, at the very least, a "necessary evil" that they "must" carry out; like exaggerating a creator's behavior online or their art in order to paint them as in the right for "standing up to the big, bad showrunner", seeing death threats as just blowing off steam and not something that could send somebody struggling over the edge.
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Late reply, dunno if I should do this, but I want to post what I think. While there are certain actions that are more blatantly terrible, like sending death threats, in general, I feel that being innocent doesn't necessarily mean they're better/faultless or have the moral high ground. Though this isn't necessarily about fandom actions. There can be those that have an innocent status due to them never getting caught/exposed, or have people defend them if they're liked enough, or if said actions have been normalized, thus it's not seen as wrong, or if one actually holds similarly twisted views, but doesn't act on it due to fear rather than principle.
About holding innocents responsible, I quite often see people in fanbases who do that, but those are seen as fine as it's socially acceptable, like those who harass fans who do powerscaling or like a show they refer to for toxic fanbase due to the toxic experiences they get from them. There are also those who hold that the public figure said toxic fanbase are fans of, and blame them for said fandom's actions, despite the public figure not necessarily being in control of their actions (individual's actions are something out of one's control). And those aren't viewed as guilty by others (so, innocent status), but can get supported, due to the feeling that they deserve said treatment (lowkey a prejudice). By and large, it is obvious that people are not telepathic and therefore if a person does not show his negative inclinations in any way, it is worth simply recognizing him as a good person and not trying to prove the opposite. For believers, there are no secrets from God/gods/supreme power, for atheists, only the actions taken are important. So why bother getting into something that is hidden from everyone and does not affect anything? |
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