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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel87

Also, why do people like Otoya as a character again? I really don't get the fanbase sometimes.

Speaking solely for myself here, not only does his actor bring alot of charisma to the role, but he's also one of the few characters in Kiva whose arc and personality is not only kept consistent, but is fully realized by the end. Him being responsible for most of Kiva's' few genuinely funny moments doesn't hurt either.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel87

Fun fact: The date of that particular episode of Black RX first aired is the same date where Kamen Rider Banana, I mean, Baron's actor was born. Anyway, I'm still currently trying to power through Kiva. As of now, I am up to episode 42. Also, why do people like Otoya as a character again? I really don't get the show's fanbase sometimes.

I thought Otoya was the best part of the show the first time through because he was so lively and dynamic in comparison to Sulky Bathtub Boy. On a rewatch, my opinion of him really changed because so much about the dude is PROBLEMATIC with a every letter capitalized. He's a creep, he's an emotional manipulator, and he has a lot of narcissistic character traits that are a whole lot less fun to watch in the 2020s than it was in the 2000s. Granted, Sulky Bathtub Boy is also still a shitty protagonist, but at this point I think Otoya is just as bad, albeit in very different ways. Megumi is 100% Kiva's MVP.

[GuardianAngel87]

The good news is that I am now down the final three to four episodes of Kiva and I will finally get that damn show finished right around tomorrow, if not today. I might even watch the not-quite crossover movie between Kiva and Den-O just for funsies afterwards and then, finally continue right I left off on Wizard.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel87

The good news is that I am now down the final three to four episodes of Kiva and I will finally get that damn show finished right around tomorrow, if not today. I might even watch the not-quite crossover movie between Kiva and Den-O just for funsies afterwards and then, finally continue right I left off on Wizard.

Oh this movie! But, oddly enough, although Kiva?s role there is not even a supporting one, he copes with the task of advertising the new hero perfectly. Plus, due to the invasion of the imagin, Wataru reveals himself from an unusual side.

[Sh Ranger]

I was surprised to find out that Climax Deka is unpopular, as I personally thought this movie was pretty enjoyable.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I was surprised to find out that Climax Deka is unpopular, as I personally thought this movie was pretty enjoyable.

I think the fact is that the film was released at a time when Den-O was already starting to get boring, and Kiva never won the audience?s love. But thanks for Negataros.

[GuardianAngel87]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I was surprised to find out that Climax Deka is unpopular, as I personally thought this movie was pretty enjoyable.

I assume it is due to there not having much of a crossover aspect as the film supposedly advertised. I did enjoy what little bits of interactions we did get out of Ryotaro and Wataru though and we even see the latter briefly getting possessed by Momotaros at one point. I also liked that parts of Kiva's own soundtrack did get used throughout the film. It did even make me wonder what Kiva as a series would've been like if Kobayashi was the show's head writer rather than Inoue.

[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

I think the fact is that the film was released at a time when Den-O was already starting to get boring, and Kiva never won the audience?s love. But thanks for Negataros.

Well, it was still popular enough for Toei to make two more consecutive movies and a trilogy of V-Cinemas. But yeah, Negataros was cool.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel87

I assume it is due to there not having much of a crossover aspect as the film supposedly advertised. I did enjoy what little bits of interactions we did get out of Ryotaro and Wataru though and we even see the latter briefly getting possessed by Momotaros at one point. It did even make me wonder what Kiva as a series would've been like if Kobayashi was the show's head writer rather than Inoue.

Yeah, it's a cool Den-O movie, but not really a Kiva movie, despite being advertised as a crossover. Which also happens to Decade in Chou Den-O & Decade and then Super Sentai in Super Hero War GP. Climax Deka seems like the inspiration for the Movie War series, albeit without a story for Kiva. That team-up between Denliner and Castle Doran was awesome!

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Well, it was still popular enough for Toei to make two more consecutive movies and a trilogy of V-Cinemas.

Well, I think movie became unpopular later, among fans who came to it having already watched most of Den-O's solo content. And at the time of release, I think it collected quite well, considering that the Imagins even advertised Kiva?s solo film.

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Which also happens to Decade in Chou Den-O & Decade

Speaking of this movie, I watched the version where Decade only appears in the final battle, but apparently there is also a scene with Tsukasa in ofuro and other characters from his show. I don't like Decade enough to look for her.

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That team-up between Denliner and Castle Doran was awesome!

Very cool. This is why I say that the film still copes with the task of selling Kiva to unfamiliar viewers. In fact, this is less a crossover than an extended version of the next rider`s debut.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I was surprised to find out that Climax Deka is unpopular, as I personally thought this movie was pretty enjoyable.

I think it's one of the weaker Den-O films. The cop set-up is both weird and never mentioned again, the villain isn't very memorable, and Wataru is in it.