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08-01-2022, 10:42 AM | #11 |
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Uh.... Nope, that's all I got. See ya, Gif. Quote:
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Nah, Storious had consistently been shown to scheme and collect pieces for his master plan, he just never pushed himself into the foreground. Storious as the final bad guy made a lot of sense, George feels like a 180 once more after they already pulled that with his character.
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So it requires patience to see Tamaki fighting as a Rider, as Hikaru was actually someone whose role was to just make use of Over Demons until he's out of commission, handing the belt to Tamaki for that. Still not a good role for a member of another established family though.
#NiceTamaki as well! Being a Rider suits him. I'm glad that Aguilera actually acknowledged him here and even treated him as an equal in combat. I wish he didn't have to share his big debut with a new form for Jeanne that I don't care about, but he totally held his own as Over Demons and I'm proud of him. Quote:
Aguilera didn't get a proper chance to settle things with Giff after his betrayal, or how Giff felt about the Deadman cult isn't shown, etc. The idea of Giff being only an idea for multiple faction's motivation to fight is good on paper, but if he's intended to be a more active antagonist, then he's handled badly.
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08-01-2022, 01:34 PM | #12 |
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It's just so strange to me that we had Episode 40 be about Ikki and Daiji's differing views on Giff and the show had this thing about portraying him as more of a event/force of nature that all the characters had different ideas and interpretations of what he is or wants. And suddenly we transition to Giff just showing up at the finale of Genta vs Vail and essentially going: "Welp, I'm here to destroy humanity and rebuild it suit my needs I guess..."
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08-01-2022, 01:42 PM | #13 |
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They got two things right and wrong with Giff.
The first is... no Kamen Rider Giff, as far as we're aware. Honestly pretty great considering how likely I felt that was. That's what they got right. Second is what they got wrong... I know people were asking for Giff to talk but idk I kinda liked Giff not talking tbh. Just have him be this scary destructive monster that can't be reasoned with, no need to have him have monologues. And just have the siblings come together at their strongest at this impending disaster. |
08-01-2022, 09:40 PM | #14 |
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Given the production notes said they added the Daiji arc to better align his development with the shows theme of humans and their relationship with their demons, perhaps the decision to make George the last boss was based on them feeling that would be a more fitting final villain for the shows themes?
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08-01-2022, 11:33 PM | #15 |
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I feel like Hikaru was just warming the bench for Tamaki to become the true Over Demons. After weakening Akaishi enough for Ultimate Revice to deal the coup de grace, he had nothing left to prove to Tasuke. While he's still a meh character, I hope people can give him a little respect now, since it's clear that he considers Tamaki's feelings and trusts him as a successor, when nobody else saw his potential. #NiceHikaru (I don't expect that to trend though)
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Given the production notes said they added the Daiji arc to better align his development with the shows theme of humans and their relationship with their demons, perhaps the decision to make George the last boss was based on them feeling that would be a more fitting final villain for the shows themes?
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08-02-2022, 12:04 AM | #16 |
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I feel like people are getting too mad at the reasons behind George's actions and stuff when like the second demon in the body was mostly to set up Chic for Battle Familia and ignoring like what's happening to him.
Dude finds out his dad's alive, has a strained relationship but works/talks with him, finds out some pretty messed up stuff and then doesn't get to have any closure with him while feeding into his mindset of "I've just been my dads pawn". At this point, George is letting his grief overtake him which is likely what's allowing Chic to influence him just slightly. Add in the stuff with Daiji and your demon being killed, and apply that to George who get separated from Chic before Chic supposedly dies in the movie... and George still likely screwed up from Masumi's death and uh... Yeah I don't really see this coming completely out of nowhere. Is it a swerve, yeah? But like, that's just life, it's not a neat script, it's likely him acting erratically in response to a lot of factors and who knows he might have some kind of higher purpose since we've yet to get a motivation given all we have to go on is Birth of Chimera and what little Battle Familia stuff we know. Also Hot Take: George in the early episodes was not as much a "mad scientist" as people like to believe I feel. He was an eccentric dude who was rude and quite frankly a douche to certain people while overlooking a few things and that was about it. And I feel that characterization got absurdly distorted in the Hiromi Episodes (19, 20, 21) which are what I consider the most detached and isolated episodes of Revice in where a lot of things don't make much sense and are mostly just there for Hiromi to have some closure before he departs the show for a bit, with his story barely factoring into any of the plot reveals in the long run. |
08-02-2022, 09:39 AM | #17 |
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And I feel that characterization got absurdly distorted in the Hiromi Episodes (19, 20, 21) which are what I consider the most detached and isolated episodes of Revice in where a lot of things don't make much sense and are mostly just there for Hiromi to have some closure before he departs the show for a bit, with his story barely factoring into any of the plot reveals in the long run. I'm a bit sad to see everyone's opinions about just wanting series to end now. I honestly love this episode. Not as much as Daiji's resolution two weeks ago but this is still a solid episode from top to bottom. From Lovekov and Sakura's deepening their bond, Tamaki finally had time to shine as Over Demons with Aguilera, and Ikki and Vice in their top game this episode. Don't make me start about Daiji and Hiromi, who is still by now my favorite characters in Revice. I still think the show wants George to be more on the antagonistic side in the first place. However, because of some meddling, they wrote George to be on our good side. If you watch closely, there's a huge difference George from ep 1 to 24 and George from ep 25 up until Masumi's death. There's clearly a huge intervention here that hugely revamped George's character. Do they honestly think we would believe all of George's suspicious in the early Revice was simply because of Akaishi's orders? It kinda hurts a bit when the show now wants George to be back as the bad guy after this ping pong between good and bad. I felt Revice is a series that it had a good vision of what path it's going to take but some meddling here and there really botched down the series a bit. If you want to count, Revice had a bit of weak link starting from ep 32 up until maybe ep 38. After that, I enjoy Revice from ep 39 until now. That's like less of a fifth of the series. It's a bit saddening that we judged too much of Revice when it's maybe only 6/7 episodes a bit of slump.
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08-02-2022, 10:04 AM | #18 |
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I mean, maybe you feel that only 6/7 episodes are a bit of a slump, but others don't agree with you there. Many see everything in the show's second half as subpar; if you ask me, the show always just sucked.
It's really a matter of perspective.
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08-04-2022, 07:07 AM | #19 |
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Not a bad episode at all, giving us a satisfying (enough) defeat for Giff.
Invincible Jeanne, as commented elsewhere, is a great form, and seeing it in action, I realize the leggings just looked odd in the pictures we initially got, but even if not, this was a nice form, though not as strong a debut as base Jeanne, if I'm honest. Hikaru (still one of the handful of Hikaru fans) passes the torch to Tamaki, which I liked very much, though I admit, I'd have liked Tamaki to have his own form, but this is good too. He can now finally fight alongside Aguilera, fleeting though it may be. The theme of accepting your demons is a theme that, while a little sloppy at times, shines through where it matters most, against the Final Boss, and though it wasn't as great as some other Kamen Rider boss fights, the Rider Kick was still fun to watch. At this point, George has decided to reject demons entirely (guess they're taking a page from Daiji's not-so finest hour), which I understand, but I'll wait to see how it turns out before giving a final word for our true final boss. Next Episode: George lives his Rider Fantasy (again). |
08-07-2022, 04:52 PM | #20 |
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