[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Well, I guess it's due to Sachika and Koji having big dreams about making everybody happy, which also make themselves happy. Seems like Lakia sees Comel more in those two, rather than the overly selfless Shouma who often speaks in terms of moral obligation, which Lakia clearly hates.

I thought moral obligation generally goes hand-in-hand with wanting to make everyone happy (if they aren't dark characters who'd use dubious methods to achieve that), where they'd routinely call out people who do wrong things because they're making others unhappy that way. And ofc, most of the main Riders also have a goal of making everyone happy, and one needs to be a paragon of virtue to live up to that. This is probably more of my projection, but I can feel that talking about what one personally wants to convince others can be less convincing because it can be not objective, others won't care about what they want, and one seems more vulnerable to more verbal attack/abuse about their goal. Like, perhaps a fan talking about wanting to relieve their childhood nostalgia, when complaining about the toys in more recent shows and criticizing those who like them, rather than explaining why a toy focus can be detrimental. About Comel, I was more hoping that the episode directly highlights him in Rakia bringing him up and his ideals in this episode, rather than just a fan observation in the discussions here.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

True, like, maybe some of them were good once, but they went too far to turn back. Vram even gave his own version of the "dousuru?" to Le Beet, just in case. Stomach may have got them hooked on the Dark Snacks, but Comel walked away and tried to take responsibility for his actions, so the others can't use their addiction to justify their evil deeds. They're the real cowards here. Reminds me of how Shocker would just abduct people and brainwash them in to evil monsters.

Your example rather sounds like the opposite, as brainwashing often means that they're not in-control of their actions, and that they're not themselves due to being controlled by an outside factor through their body, unless you think that brainwash is different from mind-control, but this definition of brainwashing is also used to deflect blames from them to the "true villain" manipulators as well. What I'm thinking is also about how Dente, who genuinely reformed, stated that Dark Treats' addictions are impossible to be get rid of, and would stay forever in one's entire life, which means reforming Dark Treats addicts are impossible, as shown in Rojoe, of which Comel contradicts it (though unknown how good the part timers were once).

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

I get similar vibes from everything happening with Lakia in these ones too. It's not making any immediate massive change to his character, but I see stuff like that scene of him clearly being a little taken aback by Sachika pointing out that he's also one of the people she wants to be happy, and I can already imagine Koumura running with that, and building it into something even more touching later down the line. And if she does end up doing that, it'll be because these two episodes were here to establish that relationship in the first place.

Dunno about Rakia here not being an immediate massive change, or probably you feel it this way because it's done in middle part of the series. Characters like Rakia (at least those who start in his earlier Shoma side part where he doesn't commit evil deeds but doesn't care about others) often start to care about humanity due to the positive influences around them at late of the series, but I felt that change is still similar to Rakia here, even though it's not done in climatic part of the series. It's not only the primary/secondary conflict, Gavv also has the sympathetic villain redeem faster than most others of Rakia's kind too, where he quickly joined Shoma's side and stopped his crimes in ep. 19, where this too, is usually done in the later part of a series. It's unknown how'd Rakia demonstrate his new change later, but his main problem of being in good guy's side is his apathy for humans, but it's solved now and dunno if he needs further development now for now caring about them. Unless perhaps how evil Suga is would shook all the 3 main Riders (not only Rakia), who don't really experience cruelty from humans so far (except perhaps Hanto being betrayed by his desperate friend).

[Zolda]

I have several new points:
- I hypothesized in my first post above that Dente is seen holding Lage 9's Vrastum Gear, so perhaps he's asked to create a copy of it for Hanto, but a Driver without a trinket means nothing, so even if Dente manages to copy Lage 9's Vrastum Gear, he's still unable to provide the tubular-shaped RG's (Doppudding, Purujelly, and Frappeise) because the RG's produced by Shouma don't look anything like that. So, who will provide the Frappeise RG to Hanto? Is it Nyelv? Or Nyelv via Kenzou? Or Shouma, after having his Gavv modified by Dente to enable him to produce the tubular-shaped RG's? It'd be very very very awfully convenient if Shouma is now also able to produce the tubular-shaped RG's to move Hanto's plot.
- Also, Dente has no job, so how does he have the money to build new Drivers and gadgets? It makes sense if Nyelv is able to build new Drivers, trinkets, and weapons because he's been misappropriating Stomach's funds due to Lango the stupidest CEO villain's utter stupidity. But Dente is just a hermit jobless vagrant who has been living inside a cave, so it's impossible for him to have any financial support from any 3rd party at all, so where does he get the money to build new Drivers and gadgets from? Don't know!
- I've been asking who the heck has been producing the Doppudding and Purujelly RG's for Nyelv. To answer that question, I've just made a new, quite crazy hypothesis: Those tubular-shaped RG's are created by *drum roll* *wait for it* *drum roll* *wait for it* *drum roll* Dark Shouma #0. Dark Shouma #0 was the original clone of Shouma that was created when he was a kid, likely by Dente or Zomb. He has been kept under captivity inside the most top-secret part of Stomach's lab all this time, and Nyelv had found him based on the info from Dente's research documents. Dark Shouma #0 was likely the elusive wolf Granute, since the identity of that Granute is still unclear. Dark Shouma #0 could've been a test subject cloned from Kid Shouma and then injected with an ultra-high dose of Granute DNA in an experiment to test how increasing Granute DNA would've affected Kid Shouma, before applying it to Kid Shouma. That experiment (including the experiment to strengthen Kid Shouma's weak red Gavv) was declared by Dente as a total failure, and Dark Shouma #0 had been kept in captivity as a failed test subject, until Nyelv saw the opportunity of using Dark Shouma #0 as the producer of a new type of RG's (Doppudding, Purujelly, and likely the Frappeise RG as well). If he indeed exists, then there's a high chance that he's also able to transform into a Rider (KR Dark Gavv?).
- There's an even crazier possibility: The current Shouma (KR Gavv) is actually not the real Shouma, but a defective/downgraded clone of the real Shouma, which was *drum roll* *wait for it* *drum roll* *wait for it* *drum roll* Dark Shouma #0, which means that the current Dark Shoumas/KR Bitter Gavv #1-#8 are just clones of a clone (the current Shouma/KR Gavv). The story has shown Shouma experiencing several flashbacks involving the elusive wolf Granute, and they happened because Shouma's current memories contain the residual memories of his real self (Dark Shouma #0). I asked in my post in episode 20 thread here how the heck Shouma was able to instantly know the correct key combination into a locked room (without even trying!) in episode 20 @ 11:43 when he was infiltrating Stomach's factory with Lage 9. In that scene Shouma also said to Lage 9 that his memory was quite unclear, which made me hypothesize that perhaps Shouma's memories contained the memory of another person. If this hypothesis is correct, then it answer that question: Shouma was able to instantly know the correct key combination into the locked room because his memories contain the residues of Dark Shouma #0's memories. It means Dark Shouma #0 was the real Kid Shouma who was injected with an ultra-high dose of Granute DNA by Dente to strengthen his weak red Gavv, but it turned the real Kid Shouma (Dark Shouma #0) into the feral wolf Granute who kidnapped Hanto's mom. Dente panicked and tried to sweep his horrible mistake under the rug by hastily cloning the real Kid Shouma (Dark Shouma #0), thus creating the current Shouma (KR Gavv), and engineering his Granute DNA to a much lower amount, perhaps even lower than his human DNA. Dente then likely reported to Bouche that his experiment was just a simple failure due to biological impossibility (without even mentioning the details about the creation of a clone aka the current Shouma/KR Gavv). Perhaps Dente was the only one who knew about his horrible mistake, until it was inferred by Nyelv who has been connecting the dots in the last 18 years and has finally discovered the existence of the real Shouma (Dark Shouma #0) who is actually still alive in captivity to be used as the producer of a new type of RG's (Doppudding, Purujelly, and likely the Frappeise RG as well).
- Buuuuuttttt, the story has been soooooooooooo laughably convoluted that whether my 2 new hypotheses above are correct or not, it'd still makes no sense at all. Why? Because Bouche already knew the fact that Dente's experiment to strengthen Kid Shouma's red Gavv was a failure, yet he did't order Dente to remove the Henshin Belt Gavv from Kid Shouma's body. As far as I know, no sane, competent doctor will ever keep a failed, non-functional medical device attached on a patient's body, unless it's a malpractice. Like I mentioned in my post in episode 12 thread here:
"Stomach's limited access to information was likely hinted in episode 6 @ 12:17 when Nyelv said that according to Dente's documents, his modification on Kid Shouma's red Gavv was considered a failure. I have a hypothesis that it was not actually a failure, but was only reported by Dente (as ordered by Organization #0) as a failure. The very weird thing is, if Bouche was already informed that it was a failure, then why didn't he order Dente to just remove the Henshin Belt Gavv from Kid Shouma's body? What's the point of keeping a failed, non-functional medical device attached on your body, unless the plot needed it? Also, has Kid Shouma ever asked himself (and Bouche and Dente) why he got a hilariously gaudy, conspicuous-looking, failed, non-functional medical device (with a crank lever!) permanently implanted into his digestive system? Don't know!"
As I mentioned in my post in episode 12 thread above, the writers needed the Henshin Belt Gavv to stay attached to Kid Shouma's body simply because they needed it to move the plot in episode 1, and thus, in future episodes as well. If Bouche have had just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit of common sense then he would've ordered Dente to remove the Henshin Belt Gavv from Kid Shouma's body, and without the Henshin Belt Gavv, the plot in episode 1 would've stopped when the untransformed Shouma was beaten to a pulp by the Granute of the week.
TLDR: If Bouche have had common sense then this story would've ended in episode 1. This is just another proof (among a gazillion other) of how pathetically, laughably, indefensibly lazy, cheap, sloppy, heavy-handed, and atrocious KR Gavv's story is. *intergalactic hyperdrive facepalm
- After seeing how easy it is in this story to clone a person, I see that there's a possibility that Kenzou himself might've been a clone as well. Perhaps he has been secretly creating several high-quality clones of himself (without expedited growth, unlike the Dark Shoumas) as a precautionary measure against Nyelv's betrayal? The Dark Shouma's are basically low-quality clones due to the expedited growth, like the Clone Troopers/the Grand Army of the Republic in Star Wars, and Kenzou's clones could be high-quality clones of himself, similar to how Boba Fett was a normally grown clone human created from Jango Fett's DNA. I see a very high chance that Nyelv would ultimately betray Kenzou, and I'd like to see Nyelv's reaction when he found out that Kenzou has actually created several clones (and even an army of clone Rider troopers) as a countermeasure against his scheme. If KR Gotchard had Glion, then KR Gavv has Kenzou.
- Perhaps Sachika was also a clone or at least an engineered human-Granute hybrid created by Dente like I hypothesized in my post in episode 21 thread here. It's already 26 episodes, and she has virtually zero backstory, aside from very basic info that she has a rich grandma and that she's living in the same apartment complex as Ritsu. Speaking of Ritsu, where the heck has she been? Wasn't she supposed to be Sachika's best friend? It's very rare for a young woman of Sachika's age without at least one close friend, let alone an outgoing person like her. An obviously extroverted, cheerful, outgoing person like Sachika having no close friend makes no sense at all. Oh, and wasn't Ritsu supposed to work at Hapipare as well? Why hasn't she appeared after episode 1, at least as an occasional recurring minor character? Don't know! Virtually all characters in this story are mere narrative tools to move the super duper hyper mega ultra convoluted plot, and that's why they feel so laughably shallow and one-dimensional. This story uses and discards characters like I use and discard toothpicks or Q-tips, haha.

Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...

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Originally Posted by DH21965

Jesus Christonnacrutch there is NO WAY I will ever begin to read this overzealous Wall of Text, this is like a Window into Insanity

If I'm unable to read long texts, then it means I've consumed too much of ultra fast-paced, high-quantity-yet-low-quality, mind-numbing, brain-rotting contents like Twitter, Tiktok, or Youtube Shorts.

[Eclipyon]

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Originally Posted by Zolda

If I'm unable to read long texts, then it means I've consumed too much of ultra fast-paced, high-quantity-yet-low-quality, mind-numbing, brain-rotting contents like Twitter, Tiktok, or Youtube Shorts.

Or you could have stop repeating yourself like a broken record everytime you review an episode, especially when you always copy and paste your comments about Jeebh everytime the guy is not in the episode...

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Originally Posted by Zolda

Jeebh? Yep, as usual, he's still MIA.
# of episodes without Jeebh: 10. He's been missing from the story for 10 episodes straight(!).
My only conclusions:
- The writers wrote themselves to a corner and couldn't do anything to insert Jeebh into the story, so he needed to be sidelined until his advertising tenure begins, very likely after Kenzou reveals himself as the creator of the Dark Shoumas and transforms into KR Bake in episode 27(?).
- There's a possibility that the writers also went Yuuya with Jeebh. Perhaps during the last 9 episodes Jeebh has been searching for Zomb to request his help to strengthen him in order to fulfill his revenge on Shouma for killing Shita. Or maybe not. Who knows what kind of convoluted plot points were crammed into the story next?

I've got nothing more to say, so let me repost my point about Jeebh in episode 23 thread here:
"And hooooooooooooooooooooly crap, Jeebh is still frakkin' absent!!! Where the heck are you, Jeebh??? He's the only character in this story whose transformation I've really really really looked forward into, but at this point all the momentum and all my expectations about him have completely evaporated. He's completely missed his momentum.
The weirdest thing is that the writers still could't even deal with Jeebh's storyline, yet they added a new villain (Zomb) into the story and potentially made the story much harder to resolve. They hadn't solved the previous problem yet they created a new one. Also, Kenzou is starting another manipulation, adding another difficulty in resolving Jeebh's storyline."

Let me repost my point about Jeebh in episode 21 thread here:
"Jeebh is still absent after his last appearance in episode 16. He doesn't appear at all since then, not even 1 frame. The fact that Jeebh is still nowhere to be seen could mean that he'd likely transform into the 5th Rider or the 6th Rider, since there has been a rumor about Kenzou transforming into KR Bake. Perhaps Jeebh would be one of the normal Granutes who are possessed by Dark Shouma's cells and gets his Gavv corrupted, or perhaps he's the final user of the Henshin Belt Bitter Gavv. That, or he's simply forgotten by the writers due to the super duper hyper mega ultra convoluted plot, haha. Jeebh is supposed to be the person who has the most problems with Shouma due to Shita being killed by Shouma in episode 14, so he should've been consumed by revenge and *wait for it* bitterness. He should've been searching frantically for Shouma to exact his revenge. He should've ordered his agents to search for Shouma and attack him at first sight. Heck, he could've even decided to play dirty by using Sachika as a hostage to lure Shouma out. But that didn't happen. Instead, Jeebh has been completely gone from the story. So yeah, perhaps he's simply forgotten by the writers due to the super duper hyper mega ultra convoluted plot, haha."

Like I said in my post in episode 22 thread here:
"My only words for Jeebh:
You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become a forgotten villain. The worst fate is not being a dead character, but being a character forgotten by its own writers. *facepalm"