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10-13-2024, 07:22 PM | #11 |
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I think your assumption is correct, because even folks in Japan were wondering what he meant by it. Some people in Japan seem to speculate that because Shoma saw Hanto as Valen, a chocolate-based rider, use a gun during his debut battle, so he probably thinks chocolate forms and ranged weapons, in this case a gun, are just meant to be within the show.
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10-14-2024, 10:47 AM | #12 |
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Shouma and Hanto being awkward guys might be the first time that has happened in Kamen Rider. Both are good at projecting a cool fa?ade though, which is why there Rider names, Gavv and Valen, end up sounding cool, despite having somewhat lame origins. And I am so happy that they still manage to be awkward dorks. And this kind of miscommunication seems believable, unlike other shows.
Nyelv being an amoral experimenter seems on point. Nothing new there. But is he doing this secretly or openly? That is the question. And I think this is the first time Shouma has been shown to be somewhat incompetent when it comes to helping out. Which is good. Because we wouldn?t want our Gavv out of water to be good at everthing, would we now? Sister Glotta here to audit ya! And now she is off to the punish the part timers. Once again, Shouma and Hanto are awkward dorks who only manage to keep their identities secret because the other party is also an awkward dork. Art gallery Granute go! As usual, Gavv giving him the option to swear off Dark Treats is a nice thing. Give everyone a chance to redeem themselves. And Hanto had the misfortune of coming across Glotta. Which made me realize that Hanto had never seen how Granutes disguise themselves. Now onder he couldn?t make headway in the investigation for his mother?s killer. He probably thought he was just a Wolf Granute the ran around Japan, probably hiding in the sewers and only coming out at night. He didn?t expect the monsters to wear human faces. CHOCODAN DEBUT! BITTERSWEET GUNSLINGER COWBOY GO! Although I like the detail of how Shouma actually misses most of his shots. He is a beginner at shooting, after all. Man, this Suetsugu painter fellow is a real jerk! How dare he throw paint at Sachika just because he is having a hard time selling his paintings? Glotta wields a sythe. How appropriate. Next episode, Chocodan X Chocodon!
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Also for the record, "chocolate bandito" was absolutely my runner-up for favorite form change going into this show. Really, if I didn't rate the colors of Fuwamallow Form so highly, the raw conceptual brilliance of Chocodan Form would probably push it up to the top. I don't think any other suit we've seen in this show yet sells the concept of Gavv as a hero with quite as much immediacy. It might not be the Gavv form I ended up immediately loving the most, but it's still the one I understood the fastest, even above PoppinGummy. You know he's cool because he's a gunslinging cowboy with a spiffy hat and poncho, but you know he's weird and silly and *fun* because all of those things are made from chocolate. His gun is literally just a bar of chocolate. As I've learned to expect from this show, the execution when it comes to putting that concept into action managed to handily exceed even my already heightened expectations. Especially with Teruaki Sugihara back in the directing role for this episode, the fight scene here is a frenetic delight throughout. Not only is the gun just a bar of chocolate, but it's one Gavv has to take a bite out of to get the shape right, and the projectiles the gun launches are, naturally, also pieces of chocolate. Holding true to what impressed me right from the premiere, there's this simple but striking use of both digital and practical effects to bring the particular candy flavor of the fight to life, making this one into an energetic paintball match, punctuated by all the typical comic book sound effects and cute Gochizo antics. Like quite a few episodes so far, the Rider action is actually a fairly small portion of the runtime, but perhaps for precisely that reason, not a second of that action goes to waste. From the very instant Shouma first transforms, until he lands a finisher, basically every beat has something to it worth remarking on. There's also like 20 other minutes of show here to talk about, of course, and all that was also living up to the high standards Gavv has been setting for itself. The biggest highlight for me is the Rider non-action at the start, which ended up being great for completely different reasons than I expected. I'm very happy to see a Kamen Rider show taking advantage of the "Kamen" part of the title, in the same way I'm always glad to see any actual Riding happen, but while mysterious heroes with secret identities are cool, I'm also really glad these particular two are also this *hilarious*. Their conversations in and out of costume here take advantage of how Shouma and Hanto have more similar overall personalities than a lot of main Rider duos do, playing up their mutual panic at the thought of being exposed, as well as the very similar-yet-opposite mistaken conclusions they jump to about each other's backstory. It's a quirky dynamic that still leaves plenty of room for dramatic potential on top of the fun gags, and that balance is just one more commendable thing about the way Gavv is written.
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I just love the idea of Shoma and Hanto getting along well in both their Rider forms and civilian forms, but still not knowing the other's identity and just being total goofballs. I thought for sure we were gonna get a LuPat situation where they're friends as civilians but enemies as Riders, but that doesn't seem to be the direction we're headed in.
And yeah, the intro definitely makes it seem like Sachika will be our third Rider. Her just having an empty yellow bubble after Gavv and Valen just feels too awkward for it to not be some kind of foreshadowing.
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10-16-2024, 01:41 AM | #15 |
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Hell yes.
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10-16-2024, 08:48 AM | #16 |
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Aka Gavv-sempai and Chocolate-kun.
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IDK if it was the actual dialogue or just the fan-translators doing something odd, but the subtitles I read had Shouma say something about how "guns and chocolate go together." Is that a reference to something? The only answer I can think of is that he's talking about Valen, but I'm wondering if there's an association between guns and chocolate in Japanese culture, or some other iconic media that links the two?
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So Hanto is still his swell self when dealing with humans, like of course his embarrassments above when he interacts with Shoma in Hapipare, still awkwardly laughing with each other. But when he confronts Glotta, he seems to have a prejudice against the Granutes, wanting all of them to die, not exclusively the ones that murdered his mom and mentor. Wonder if he learns that Granutes are a normal society that is threatened by Stomach Inc. too later, or even if he knows Shoma is one too.
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Their conversations in and out of costume here take advantage of how Shouma and Hanto have more similar overall personalities than a lot of main Rider duos do, playing up their mutual panic at the thought of being exposed, as well as the very similar-yet-opposite mistaken conclusions they jump to about each other's backstory.
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What really got me rolling on the floor laughing was when Hanto was like, "Shit! I ended up going with a chocolate-related name! Stupid! Stupid!".
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10-18-2024, 02:45 PM | #18 |
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Caught up with Gavv. Well, I'm really enjoying this show so far. Good plot, interesting and likable characters, great fight scenes. Still not a huge fan of the costumes, but appreciate making the most of the theme as abilities. The Agents are some of the strongest troupers in the franchise and give me much more of a "Squid Game" vibe than the entire Geats. And from the world of Granuts and the Stomach family I immediately remember Akumizer 3. Also, the number of mad scientists on screen is simply off the scale, which allows you to introduce new toys without pulling them out of poor Shouma. I hope these three get together. So I continue to watch with interest.
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10-18-2024, 02:49 PM | #19 |
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For the current episode. I like the confusion between Woof and Valen because it's logical and funny rather than annoying. Although there is no point in prolonging it and bringing it to the point of absurdity. I also liked the subversion of expectations when Shouma's superhuman strength causes problems. Shokodan's fight and debut was amazing, spectacular and funny at the same time. I wonder what the cleaners will think when they see a parking lot stained with chocolate and sprat.
If there's anything to criticize, it's not the most successful editing. It would have been better to move Hanto’s arrival to the gallery after Gavv’s victory, otherwise it turns out that he and Glotta silently looked at each other without starting a fight for an indecently long time. But I’m looking forward to the end of their fight, the shooting-chocolate team-up and the development of Sachika’s situation with the irritable creator. |
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