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01-09-2023, 12:29 AM | #101 |
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HE'S SO GOOD. I love how much he's okay with being an asshole in this story. He's genre-savvy, but in the exact opposite way Touma is. That's perfect.
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As for the story this time... I was curious to see if you'd do a follow up since you know despite you leaving it on a technical cliffhanger there was no guarantee. It was nice to see that follow up and how this insane event managed to change Kouhei's perspective. His little ramble to Ogami at the end and the two having that like fatherly understanding and stuff was also rather sweet.
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01-09-2023, 12:31 AM | #102 |
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Yet another good episode, I'm glad that there's an actual villain now that interacts with the Riders, rather than just cutaways to a group of villains that we don't know and that don't seem to do much affecting the cast. Buster/Ryo still remains a pretty good character, and even if I don't resonate with the story very much, I am liking the cast, even if I do think that Touma's motivations are still a bit vague, though presumably that's due to his amnesia, and that he'll get a stronger sense of character as the plot progresses.
We also get to see the Rider that was in Touma's flashback thing in Episode 1, which has a pretty nice design, even if it still has that strange headsword thing that I wish the show stopped adding to the suits. This was actually a pretty solid episode, and I'm glad that there's now an actual villain that interacts with the Riders, and I hope there's some more character development, since this show rushes through a lot of character introductions and we don't really get a feel for them. But still, all in all this episode was pretty solid. |
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01-09-2023, 12:34 AM | #103 |
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Buster/Ryo still remains a pretty good character, and even if I don't resonate with the story very much, I am liking the cast, even if I do think that Touma's motivations are still a bit vague, though presumably that's due to his amnesia, and that he'll get a stronger sense of character as the plot progresses.
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01-09-2023, 03:49 AM | #104 |
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So, now that Desast has shown up, I think I’d better explain what he is.
As you may or may not have noticed, the books have three categories to them: mythical beasts (Shinjuu), animals (Seibutsu) and real world stories (Monogatari). This extends to the Riders and the previous Megid (Saber, Calibur, Buster and the Golem are Shinjuu, Blades and the Salamander are Seibutsu and the Ant/Grasshopper duo and new guy Espada are the Monogatari guys) Well Desast is classified as a Chimera Megid, meaning that he’s all three at once. He’s a hybrid of Fenrir, a silkworm and The Singing Bone. Though for toyline purposes, he gets classed as a Seibutsu. Anyway, boxing Tinkerbell. That is all. Next time, I might talk about the episode. |
01-09-2023, 09:31 AM | #105 |
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Saber Dragon Hedgehog Peter is a hell of a mouthful of a name and that's about what can be said about the suit itself! Naturally, I LOVE that about it! Just a wild combo of random, disparate parts and stories with its own unique power coming from it. Pretty perfect for the kind of character Touma is and exactly the kind of crazy I love to see in Tokusatsu!
And hey, while we're here; Dezast is on the complete opposite end as a super sleek super sexy bad guy! Awesome combination of traits melded together well with a simple black-and-red colour scheme, and you gotta love the cape and skullhead. Really good!
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01-09-2023, 01:47 PM | #106 |
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So, now that Desast has shown up, I think I?d better explain what he is.
As you may or may not have noticed, the books have three categories to them: mythical beasts (Shinjuu), animals (Seibutsu) and real world stories (Monogatari). This extends to the Riders and the previous Megid (Saber, Calibur, Buster and the Golem are Shinjuu, Blades and the Salamander are Seibutsu and the Ant/Grasshopper duo and new guy Espada are the Monogatari guys) Well Desast is classified as a Chimera Megid, meaning that he?s all three at once. He?s a hybrid of Fenrir, a silkworm and The Singing Bone. Though for toyline purposes, he gets classed as a Seibutsu. Quote:
Saber Dragon Hedgehog Peter is a hell of a mouthful of a name and that's about what can be said about the suit itself! Naturally, I LOVE that about it! Just a wild combo of random, disparate parts and stories with its own unique power coming from it. Pretty perfect for the kind of character Touma is and exactly the kind of crazy I love to see in Tokusatsu!
But! Red Yellow Blue Saber! Fun design, for sure.
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01-09-2023, 02:09 PM | #107 |
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Yeaaah I very distinctly remember that one. One of the very few times in recent memory that one of these shows has actually brought up a reason to not use a more powerful form in favour of a base/earlier form - something I'd like to see them do a lot more! - and then it's just, sort of, swept aside and doesn't matter. Okay!
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01-09-2023, 02:26 PM | #108 |
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Personally, I have no problem with Tendo's feelings, I would say that his concern for Kagami and the sisters is the best thing about him (and also most likely brought by his grandmother). My main problem with him is that he did not do even the 10th part of what he could. When the policemen died in Kuug, it happened because the rider did not have time to come to their aid. When ZECTroopers died in Kabuto, the reason was that the rider was simply not in a hurry.
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All of those complaints, though... that's the point? They're all about one thing: Ogami is a dude who takes pride in his job -- he definitely wants his son to see the value in it -- but it's a job. He uses a big-ass sword because it's efficient. It's not worth trying to look at his life in mythic terms, because that's almost insulting to the hard work Ogami puts in. (It's also sort of condescending to blue collar folks? Imagine going into a fast food joint and telling the person bagging your order that they're the embodiment of man's struggle against the forces of capitalism, and how their quiet dignity points towards an innate humanity that blah blah blah. They would definitely spit on your fries when you weren't looking.) Everything about Ogami as a character is about strpping away the flowery elements for something focused and raw.
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KAMEN RIDER SABER EPISODE 4 - ?THE BOOK WAS OPENED, THAT IS WHY?
Immediately fills the villain void this show was in, while also making Calibur someone worth caring about. Desast has such devastating charisma, right from the start. He basically tells Calibur, the guy who summoned him, to go screw. He?s excited to duel with Buster. His loss is taken with a laugh; he seems to relish the idea of having an excuse to fight again later. He?s just fun, in a way that Calibur?s quiet menace and the trio of book gangsters had yet to manage. He comes into Buster?s story of a terrified parent and goes Man You Got Old. It?s great! Quote:
I?ll let it go, though, because as a fellow bookseller, I was glad to see Touma do the coolest aspect of the job: getting a minor piece of information and figuring out what book it?s from. There is no more superheroic feeling as a bookseller than having someone offer a tiny detail from something they half-remember, and you spending a couple seconds in thought before going Oh It?s A Book Called ?Friday?. That?s such an electric charge moment, and I?m glad Touma was able to showcase it for a generation of children.
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However, I think the story goes a little too one-sided on depicting him as being this stubborn old guy (even though he's only in his 30s) who won't acknowledge the wisdom in youths and how he's inadvertently inhibiting his son's development, to the point where he's pretty much a strawman with no strong argument in this 2-parter. Of course, I'm glad he gets character development early, so he can be more likable and chill now, which is important for his teamwork with the other Swordsmen.
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Picking up on a reference and trying to remember where you recognize it from can even be a gratifying moment for anybody who's a fan of various media! It's a cool way to show off Touma's knowledge of books, which is fitting with the episode's moral that books aren't a waste of time and besides entertainment, they can actually be educational for future reference. Salamander talking about the king's awakening only made me think of Time Jackers, so it's good that someone in the show could figure out what he really meant.
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01-09-2023, 03:37 PM | #110 |
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KAMEN RIDER SABER EPISODE 4 - “THE BOOK WAS OPENED, THAT IS WHY”
Immediately fills the villain void this show was in, while also making Calibur someone worth caring about. Desast has such devastating charisma, right from the start. He basically tells Calibur, the guy who summoned him, to go screw. He’s excited to duel with Buster. His loss is taken with a laugh; he seems to relish the idea of having an excuse to fight again later. He’s just fun, in a way that Calibur’s quiet menace and the trio of book gangsters had yet to manage. He comes into Buster’s story of a terrified parent and goes Man You Got Old. It’s great! Quote:
Ogami’s storyline, him seeing past Touma’s artistic facade for the dedicated warrior inside, was nice. It’s mostly just a standard Warrior Respects Warrior thing, but it’s landed effectively. I wish they’d found a different angle on it – something where Ogami finds value in Touma’s sweetness, or studiousness? – but what they gave was at least coherently done.
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I’ll let it go, though, because as a fellow bookseller, I was glad to see Touma do the coolest aspect of the job: getting a minor piece of information and figuring out what book it’s from. There is no more superheroic feeling as a bookseller than having someone offer a tiny detail from something they half-remember, and you spending a couple seconds in thought before going Oh It’s A Book Called “Friday”. That’s such an electric charge moment, and I’m glad Touma was able to showcase it for a generation of children.
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After a decent introduction as a cool Swordsman and loving father, this is the part that made Ogami lose a few points, at least in this episode anyway. Like, I don't really sympathize much with his whole "kids these days!" attitude, where it becomes apparent that he's not quite as easygoing as he first appears. He's quick to dismiss Rintarou's concern for taking Sora in to battle and his apathy towards Touma's fascination with his narrative potential kind of makes him seem more mean and cold than he needs to be. His behavior imprints on Sora as well, since Touma and Mei have to be the ones who educate him on the wonders of books, when that's something a father should do.
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While it's better to only make promises that you're confident you can keep, I think the most important part of any promise is the will and moral obligation to do everything possible to see it through. Like you said, it's a declaration of absolute truth, an expectation that only the most confident or clairvoyant of people can live up to. You have to be prepared for that extreme responsibility and the consequences of breaking it. However, the worst kind of people are those who would give false promises, gilded lies made to to deceive or get out of inconvenient situations, without any respect for the recipients' wishes.
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Personally, I have no problem with Tendo's feelings, I would say that his concern for Kagami and the sisters is the best thing about him (and also most likely brought by his grandmother). My main problem with him is that he did not do even the 10th part of what he could. When the policemen died in Kuug, it happened because the rider did not have time to come to their aid. When ZECTroopers died in Kabuto, the reason was that the rider was simply not in a hurry.
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