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02-24-2014, 04:20 PM | #4301 |
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Only thing that movie does that left any impact on me was that Gaburincho of Music buried it's way into my head so hard not even the ponies could get it out
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02-24-2014, 04:22 PM | #4302 |
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I think by doing this you're going to miss some vital moments for the characters. If you skip 37, you miss the beginning of an interesting little subplot for Souji. Sentai is built on the little things it can do with its characters in what might be called filler episodes. If you're skipping those because there's something you're not finding yourself enjoying, you're doing the story and yourself a disservice and you might be better off just not watching the rest of the series.
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02-24-2014, 04:27 PM | #4303 |
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I think by doing this you're going to miss some vital moments for the characters. If you skip 37, you miss the beginning of an interesting little subplot for Souji. Sentai is built on the little things it can do with its characters in what might be called filler episodes. If you're skipping those because there's something you're not finding yourself enjoying, you're doing the story and yourself a disservice and you might be better off just not watching the rest of the series.
While I'd recommend watching everything -- and it was hard to skip certain episodes because of the minor nuance they add to future plotlines -- I recall that Locke wasn't very interested in watching Kyoryuger at all until we trimmed out about 20 episodes for him. |
02-24-2014, 04:33 PM | #4304 |
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The point is though, for whatever reason, sentai fans seem to have this apologetic nature to poor storytelling. The opening twenty or so episodes, had so little plot, I was able to cut out almost fifteen of those episodes.
Just because an episode has a thirty second character moment in it, it doesn't make it worthwhile. Sentai has always given poor exposure to everyone outside of red and sixth and this show may well very be the worst offender, and that makes it even less worthwhile. And before someone tells me 'but you like Wizard apples and oranges'. Wizard had consistently fantastic action, and even the filler stories were interesting. I think the highlights of the episodes I skipped in this was Ian got toothache, Candi put on a concert that causes dogs to go in blind rages and fart batteries. If you guys think I've missed something genuinely tangible, then by all means I'll check it out - that is why I watched that Nossan episode with the stupid tickle battery. But if it's like the Tessai episodes, where everyone learns something really stupid and pointless, and it never comes up again I think I can safely skip it.
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02-24-2014, 06:10 PM | #4305 |
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Which episodes from the first 20 did you watch? Because if you cut out 15, that means you missed a lot of any one of the team formation arc, the introduction of Cyan, Gold's introduction, even episodes that serve to showcase more of the villains like 15 or the one with Luckyuro's teacher. They all serve a purpose and I would argue very little of Kyoryuger is dismissal due to the nature of the show.
It honestly just sounds like you don't like the characters or the show in general, in which case, watching it seems like an odd decision. I understand wanting to be informed and critical of the things you dislike, but as long as you continue to skip episodes, you're just never going to get the full picture. Whether or not something seems pointless, and due to the nature of year long shows, that will almost always be the case with at least a few episodes, they should be watched. I can understand thinking some episodes don't advance the story, and I feel like this is the case with a few of the ones in the early 30s, but it's just not going to be easy to have a full grasp of the show if you end up skipping something like half of its run. If I were to have done that with Shinkenger, I would have thought the show was good because I skipped almost the entirety of the inconsequential middle portion of the show. You need the good and the bad to understand how the show was meant to be presented and fully understand what it wanted to do versus what it was capable of doing. Quote:
While I'd recommend watching everything -- and it was hard to skip certain episodes because of the minor nuance they add to future plotlines -- I recall that Locke wasn't very interested in watching Kyoryuger at all until we trimmed out about 20 episodes for him.
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02-24-2014, 06:16 PM | #4306 |
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I watched 1 - 4. 8 - 10. 12. 16 - 18. 21 - up to where I am now. So I skipped ten episodes. I skipped Cyan's introduction because I hate Candi and I've seen it before.
I didn't like the show, I dropped it once around episode ten, but others wanted me to give it a go and with their hindsight they were able to streamline the series so I skip all the goofy shit, and pointless filler that made me drop it in the first place. Yeah the characters are a bit flat, the focus on Daigo is heavy, the villains are rubbish and the plot is nonsense but that seems the conclusion of people who watched it from start to finish anyway. The only difference is I'm getting much greater quantities of what the show is good at, versus what it isn't, so I'm actually enjoying it more than most. I think it's good to get all of the good and none of the bad, I don't understand the strawman argument about Shinkenger at all.
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02-24-2014, 06:54 PM | #4307 |
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I can understand thinking some episodes don't advance the story, and I feel like this is the case with a few of the ones in the early 30s, but it's just not going to be easy to have a full grasp of the show if you end up skipping something like half of its run. If I were to have done that with Shinkenger, I would have thought the show was good because I skipped almost the entirety of the inconsequential middle portion of the show. You need the good and the bad to understand how the show was meant to be presented and fully understand what it wanted to do versus what it was capable of doing.
If the viewer enjoys a show better without the episodes that don't advance the story -- and his priority is enjoyment -- I think skipping episodes is a very valid way to watch a series he otherwise wouldn't have enjoyed. If the viewer wants to have an authoritative opinion on the entirety of the show -- watching the complete product is obviously better. Keep in mind that almost all weekly TV shows -- especially ones aimed largely at children -- are designed to be enjoyed even if you miss an episode here or there. Sure, you may not get the entire experience, but you are getting a valid experience. I bristle at the suggestion that any one way to watch a show is "wrong," so long as the viewer enjoys himself. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 02-24-2014 at 07:04 PM.. |
02-24-2014, 07:02 PM | #4308 |
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I agree. While I personally enjoyed Kyoryuger's silliness, if someone'll enjoy the show more without the really silly episodes, then they shouldn't have to watch them. Locke seems to be doing fine without them.
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02-24-2014, 07:03 PM | #4309 |
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It's a flawed mentality to think that you need the bad in a show. You seem to have a very "Ultimate" stance when it comes to judging it. Introducing a plot point means nothing if the show doesn't follow up on it, and that's the biggest failing of Kyoryuger. If the plot doesn't focus on Daigo, it doesn't follow up (Souji's family life, Ian's love life, Nossan's family. All set up, but goes nowhere because it's not focused on/doesn't affect Daigo. It's menial and skipping them doesn't affect the flow of the story at all.
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02-24-2014, 07:04 PM | #4310 |
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That is the thing as well, it doesn't seem I've missed anything by skipping the ten episodes I have so far. Admittedly I don't have much attachment to the characters but that doesn't seem to be because of me, it seems to be that all the focus the core four outside of Daigo and Utchy were gonna get was in the first ten episodes.
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