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01-13-2022, 07:27 PM | #281 |
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Uh, this was a movie I watched and I don't remember much other than.
"Yay, Yuuto!" Mach and Faiz Axel's brief superspeed clash Bits and pieces of the Grand Prix Drive and Ninninger actually succeeding at making a cool Rider and Sentai Combination mecha. Oh and the main theme Who's That Guy is a real bop! Anyway the most I have to contribute is this trailer by the legendary SpeedRacerFlubber: |
01-13-2022, 07:48 PM | #282 |
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Like all things Sangou, I really came around on that song after rewatching this movie. It always struck me as a little too dance-y for Sangou's whole Spending Decades Digging Yourself Deeper Into A Pit Of Bitter Recriminations thing, but I do like it. It's pretty catchy, for a song about extinguishing your ego.
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01-13-2022, 08:06 PM | #283 |
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Oh speaking of Yuuto I believe actor retired due to health reasons. But came back to acting and this was either his first or his major announcment to being back into the entertainment industry
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01-13-2022, 08:19 PM | #284 |
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Aw, that's nice news.
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01-13-2022, 08:57 PM | #285 |
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Oh yeah, I forgot the Blade Riders were in this! Maybe, now I've seen Blade, I should rewatch it and remind myself just how odd Taisen films are. And then go watch the Yongou series to not understand that.
But yeah, Sangou is probably the best character to come out of the SHT series. Not that there's a huge selection, unless you really liked the egg from SHT-Z. Sure, it once again comes with "And now Shocker is back", because that's never been done before, and having a race to fix everything is a plot choice, but it feels like there's something more to it than "Let's just have a bunch of suits fight!" Also, his theme is a bop. I guess we never found out "Who that Guy" was.
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01-13-2022, 09:10 PM | #286 |
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One of my actual favorite parts of the movie is Shinnosuke challenging Shocker to a race, and then the very next scene is Yuuto pointing out that there's no way Shocker is going to honor the terms of the deal. But then Shinnosuke just goes No Duh, and pivots to trying to solve the legitimate mystery of why Sangou's abduction strategy was so needlessly convoluted.
It nicely hangs a lantern on Shocker's untrustworthiness and Sangou's tortured psychology - like the fact that he keeps befriending Riders he then betrays, endlessly, pathologically - moving the Grand Prix challenge from hail-mary resolution into something more about trying to break Sangou out of his self-loathing patterns. I don't know, I like that part of the story.
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01-13-2022, 09:21 PM | #287 |
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I get ya, I just think it's odd to sell the whole premise of the movie around "the Big Rider race!" Like, are they going that hard on Drive having a car? (Part of me does think that Black is here just because he *also* has a car!) It's unique, is what I'm saying. Plus it makes me think of the Transformers episode where they fix the plot by having a race.
Although I guess it does make sense, if you're looking for a new climax after 3 years of "All the suits fight". Especally when Gokaiger did the 'All the Megazords fight' several years prior.
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01-13-2022, 10:01 PM | #288 |
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I get ya, I just think it's odd to sell the whole premise of the movie around "the Big Rider race!" Like, are they going that hard on Drive having a car? (Part of me does think that Black is here just because he *also* has a car!) It's unique, is what I'm saying. Plus it makes me think of the Transformers episode where they fix the plot by having a race.
I definitely paid less attention to this movie when everyone got to the quarry.
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01-14-2022, 12:22 PM | #289 |
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SUPER HERO TAISEN GP: KAMEN RIDER 3
I liked this one by the end, though. I liked the story they told about Sangou. It?s poignant, a guy who only felt like a winner by losing everything. His mentality - that winning/survival determines the morality of an action - is the same thing assholes from throughout history have leaned on to obviate their guilt. Spending a movie with him, going on that journey to reach a point where he?s able to admit culpability in something truly heinous, and then see him willingly accept the consequences to make it right? That?s a solid Hero?s Journey. I almost immediately wanted to buy a Sangou Figuart after watching this movie, for whatever that?s worth. Regarding 3 though, denial as a coping mechanism for guilt is an intriguing thing for the story to focus on for sure. It's easy to become a prisoner of your own delusions when the reality is so difficult to accept and that's reflected in all the chains on his suit, showing how his role as a Kamen Rider isn't giving him purpose but keeping him from his purpose. Part of being a sportsman is accepting when you've lost and acknowledging your opponent's merits and it was clever and visually impressive for the movie to use the Rider Grand Prix as a way to frame that conflict, with Shinnosuke, as someone who wants to atone for his part in Hayase's injury, being the one to try and knock some sense in to him and get him to own that past, even though it's ugly, so he can restart his engine and start to become a better and stronger person. For a work by Yonemura, this movie is a lot more clever than it seems on the surface and probably the first of its series where a good guy or anithero doesn't become a bad guy or antivillain for OOC reasons (Kaito, Retsu, the Showa Riders). You could say Otta was nothing like how he was depicted in the show as a comedic character, but I think maybe that was to show how Shocker's time manipulation has affected the world. Who's That Guy? Quote:
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They are going that hard on Drive having a car, yes! It's the most obvious thing Yonemura could latch onto from the show, and we all know how much Yonemura loves obviousness. (Like, the teamwork part of Drive goes right the hell out the window super early on in the story, and the mystery part is kept to sussing out Sangou's motivation largely off-screen) The villain gets a car, the Showa guys have cars, there's a Death Race 2000 action sequence... Yonemura just saw CAR and stopped looking.
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I almost feel like Faiz was here because of the TTFC special that's a sequel to this, which talking of which; it is insane to me that Gou just dies in this movie, it has zero effect on him in the show and it's only followed up in a special that a fraction of your casual viewerbase will be watching. Like, what! That's so funny!
Gou's death was a surprisingly dark way for the movie to end and provided a problem for Kamen Rider 4 to resolve. On the other hand, people watching the movie could just continue watching the show where Gou continues to not be dead, so it's mostly only heavy in the context of the movie and its sequel, but definitely has a lot of shock factor with great execution, as Gou realizes he's screwed and takes it like a real sportsman. Probably another reason why I call him my second favorite Secondary Rider after Cross-Z.
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01-14-2022, 12:37 PM | #290 |
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Regarding 3 though, denial as a coping mechanism for guilt is an intriguing thing for the story to focus on for sure. It's easy to become a prisoner of your own delusions when the reality is so difficult to accept and that's reflected in all the chains on his suit, showing how his role as a Kamen Rider isn't giving him purpose but keeping him from his purpose. Part of being a sportsman is accepting when you've lost and acknowledging your opponent's merits and it was clever and visually impressive for the movie to use the Rider Grand Prix as a way to frame that conflict, with Shinnosuke, as someone who wants to atone for his part in Hayase's injury, being the one to try and knock some sense in to him and get him to own that past, even though it's ugly, so he can restart his engine and start to become a better and stronger person.
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