[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by Kurona

I loved Amazon so much!! Fourze was my first Rider so it felt very lovely and comfortable; there was a great familiarity about it. One day I gotta talk about how much I love Fourze's HBV and how they saw the most perfect opportunity and took it!

Not just the HBV!



I don't know why, but Tomoko saying A-MA-ZON in a shitty homemade Amazon costume is probably in my Top 3 all-time favorite Kamen Rider things.

[Deepsea]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Admittedly, I'm not like, intimately familiar with them either (Amazon was the only one I'd seen in full until just earlier this year), so maybe I just have undue confidence in speaking for them, but a lot of this stuff was kind of baked right into the premise, from everything I know.

And heck, Amazon? That guy was making friends everywhere he went decades before Gentarou was! One of his best ones was literally just one of the random monsters of the week who ended up being pretty chill. Is that "lonely"? I don't think so, and while Amazon had difficulties communicating that isolated him from humanity a lot of the time, the same way being cyborgs would for other Riders, they all had allies, you know?

I think there's an argument to be had about what the concept of the "Lonely Kamen Rider" really meant. To me, it always simply represented the sorrow of them as tragic heroes (which is also why Rider 1's mask is crying, and why that design element reoccurs so much), and nothing more. You can be surrounded by others and still feel alone.

It's always seemed to me what defined Riders as heroes was their refusal to give up their human hearts, even when their bodies are altered, and being able to live in harmony with others, and get along, and basically everything Ghost was about (!), I think that always kind of walked hand in hand with the whole nature angle, even if it wasn't always emphasized as much.

Oh wow, this is a real eye opener post. Yeah Kamen Rider is about like everything you just said.

Kamen Rider is good yo.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Kurona

there's a lot more violence that led to it being cancelled earlier

Actually, from what I've heard these are two separate facts that often get mixed up. I believe it's true there were complaints about the level of violence (I think?), but the real reason it got cancelled had much more, if not everything to do with the fact that Kamen Rider was going to be moving to a new television network.

Hopefully someone can provide better details on this than I can, but I'm pretty sure that's the Showa Era trivia equivalent of "Joe Odagiri hates Kuuga!"

[AkibaSilver]

Even Showa Riders starting out as "one man fighting against Shocker" doesn't last long! Ichigou has a group of people to help him out at the start bbefore Ichimonji ever shows up, and from there and into the future series there's a strong emphasis on "You may think you fight alone, but there are always other Riders." It's nowhere near a strong as newer series, but it's there.

[KamenRiderLeo]

I got my cyclone riser yesterday!

[DreamSword]

I actually have something to contribute to this thread! Or at least, I think I do. Maybe it's the wrong spot, but here goes.

So here's the thing, I work in a warehouse, and in this warehouse, we actually have our own IM program on our laptops, kindles, etc incase our radios can't get the communication part of the job done for whatever reason. We even have little profiles where we can display our interests, hobbys, etc. I of course mentioned my love of Toku on mine.

Well a couple days back, I was actually added to a chatroom one of the higher-ups made, specifically, the "Tokusatsu Fan Club" and in the opening line he stated how he made the room for us to not only share our love of the genre and shitpost memes, but have a place for some lighthearted communication in these hectic times.

That's awesome in and of itself, but I didn't realize until today... there's like 30 people in that chatroom. Now granted, that's not a huge number by any means, but it got me thinking "Hey, that's way more than I expected." and it also got me to realize that, slowly but surely, maybe an appreciation for Japanese superheroes is growing here in the West. And I think that's awesome.

[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

I actually have something to contribute to this thread! Or at least, I think I do. Maybe it's the wrong spot, but here goes.

So here's the thing, I work in a warehouse, and in this warehouse, we actually have our own IM program on our laptops, kindles, etc incase our radios can't get the communication part of the job done for whatever reason. We even have little profiles where we can display our interests, hobbys, etc. I of course mentioned my love of Toku on mine.

Well a couple days back, I was actually added to a chatroom one of the higher-ups made, specifically, the "Tokusatsu Fan Club" and in the opening line he stated how he made the room for us to not only share our love of the genre and shitpost memes, but have a place for some lighthearted communication in these hectic times.

That's awesome in and of itself, but I didn't realize until today... there's like 30 people in that chatroom. Now granted, that's not a huge number by any means, but it got me thinking "Hey, that's way more than I expected." and it also got me to realize that, slowly but surely, maybe an appreciation for Japanese superheroes is growing here in the West. And I think that's awesome.

Whoa! That is awesome!

[Kurona]

Something I've been giving a little thought recently is that whatever non-upgrade form a Rider doesn't use much in their own series; it tends to be their main go-to in later movies almost as a way to 'make up' for it.

For instance, OOO infamously couldn't use Gatakiriba much due to the expensive CGI; it got used only about 3 times. But then in the movies? It of course got featured along with all the other combos in Wonderful and Mega Max; with the former even having Eiji use his duplication power for the final fight gimmick. And then in Heisei Generations Final, it's the only combo he uses aside from Tajador! And in addition, what OOO form does Grand Zi-O summon for his first finisher? That's right! Bunch of green bug boys!

In a similar vein, and one that I realised is a bit odd... Decade Hibiki. Tsukasa used this a grand total of ONE TIME in his entire series -- the very first episode! And then after that, it's 'made up' for -- he uses it against Amazon in All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker; it's one of his chosen Kamen Rides against Captain Marvelous in Super Hero Taisen; against Fifteen in Kamen Rider Taisen; and then against Sougo and Geiz in his Zi-O debut!


Are there any other things like this that come to mind? Where one of the initial power-ups is barely used by the respective Rider if at all in the original series, but then gets used all the time in their post-series appearances?

[FreshToku]

Off the top of my head, I only recall Gaim Ichigo arms being most prominent when it fought Bujin Gaim in that year's movie war.

Ex-Aid's taisen movie could be seen as offering extra screen time to the Level 3 forms of both Ex-Aid and Lazer too.

[AkibaSilver]

I can remember Gekitoisu Robots being heavily featured in GoRiders and CSHT, despite disappearing from the show completely after episode 10 or so, but that's not exactly post series. More accurate might be Gaim Pine Arms, which managed to sneak into SHT GP, the Dr PacMan movie and the final episodes of Zi-O!