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11-05-2022, 08:23 PM | #961 |
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I'm still a bit divided on the resolution to Izu's story. I like having her get her memories back, but I did like the concept of Aruto having to build a new relationship with her and having to deal with the changes of having a new version of her. Granted, it's not like there was going to be a season two of Zero-One, so we were never going to get much time with New Izu anyway. Also, it allowed for a continued purpose for the Zero-Two suit, which is still my favorite costume from the show and it's so much fun seeing her and Aruto fight alongside each other.
(Zero-Two suit is still real good! I think Kamen Rider Lucifer was my favorite suit from this film, though. Eden plus skeletons? Sign me up!)
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11-05-2022, 09:09 PM | #962 |
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Wait. Was this also the movie where Gai tortures a naked dude? That was one of the most absurdly random things I've ever seen on Kamen Rider.
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11-05-2022, 11:13 PM | #963 |
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It was! And part of the "torture" was bringing back three former Humagear guests (GUTBUSTING TARO!!!) to get him to confess. Impressively bonkers sub-plot.
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11-06-2022, 09:26 AM | #964 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE THE MOVIE: REALxTIME
It?s a great movie, all the way through. There?s some stuff I could maybe quibble over (Izu?s story gets lost in the middle; can?t believe the Naki and Ikazuchi suits aren?t at least around for the finale), but I spent half the film pumping my fist in triumph, and most of the last few minutes misty-eyed over the resolution to a story about how partnerships can?t work without communication. One of the best Zero-One things I?ve ever seen, and maybe one of the best Kamen Rider things. However, my opinion couldn't be more different. I strongly disliked it. In fact, I easily rank this as the worst KR "summer" movie I've ever watched, a dishonor formerly held by Agito's. You already summarized the most apparent reason from the start, the way the admittedly eyecatching action takes the foreground at the expense of maintaining a strong narrative. I want more than action from an action movie though, I want the action to be a framing device in service of something I can emotionally invest in and this isn't it. Like, after a show full of deep debates about the meaning of humanity and how HumaGears have a place in that, suddenly it's just nanobots and this dude called S who's way less vital to the overarching plot than the finale's post-credits made him out to be. He's not even as interesting as Kabuki. Aruto's only appearance as Zero Two is at the start and he doesn't even win. If I disliked RealEyezing Hopper before, then it's even worse now that it's not exclusive to the finale, cause that makes it an excuse for Aruto to loan his literal Final Form to Izu anytime she happens to be around, instead of actually using it himself. Speaking of Izu, yeah, I'm also annoyed about Zea pretty much overwriting New Izu's identity with her predecessor's and essentially fulfilling Aruto's unhealthy dream of creating a replacement for the dead by literally replacing her with the same person. It takes that controversial last scene from the show and mostly ignores any wrongdoing on Aruto's part, other than showing him being overprotective due to his past trauma. What even is Izu anymore? Fortunately, despite what DS and En-chan would have you believe, this isn't the last content for Zero One, so please look forward to 01hers! There's also the other shorter "summer" movie belonging to Saber that was double-billed with this in place of the usual Sentai movie, Phoenix Swordsman and the Book of Ruin, which was much more my thing. Yeah, I'm so glad I happened to be home alone when I watched this.
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11-06-2022, 10:15 AM | #965 |
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Yeah, I’m a lot like Shi on this one. I didn’t like the he movie when I saw it, or when I rewatched it. I didn’t feel that S was particularly sympathetic (since he’s essentially forcing people into a fantasy they don’t want to be part of) and the one thing that might’ve made this mvoie distinct (the whole “real-time” gimmick) turned out to be a pack of lies (the “hour” actually takes up 1 hour and 13 minutes of screen time. I counted). I felt the Thinknet guys were more sympathetic, since they’ve essentially been lied to by someone who intends to kill them. I dunno, I’d want to murder his wife after that.
I also wasn’t keen on the Is revival, since it cheapened her whole death. And I don’t see why they had to reshoot the movie to be post-series, given that Gaim and Drove both had post-show movies set during the series (and Kyoryuger had a whole episode made 4 years after it ended, also set between episodes). Especially since the sacrifice was the one thing you complained the movie was missing: screen time for Naki and Ikazuchi. |
11-06-2022, 10:17 AM | #966 |
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PROJECT THOUSER - PART 1
They want to tell a story about Naki, and their initial rebellion against Gai and ZAIA. None of it’s revelatory (most of it gets a more nuanced look in the series itself), but seeing Naki start to understand the difference between service and subjugation is really compelling. Naki’s quest for individuality and self-determination is one of the best arcs in the middle part of Zero-One, so favoring that story over Gai Collects Data is smart. Quote:
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE THE MOVIE: REALxTIME
This movie works along the same wavelength, telling an action-first story that expands into something poignant and resonant. The thrill of it is the stunning action choreography, where a list made of epic shots could be this entire post without me feeling like I’ve missed describing anything important. (The shot that starts through the AIMS van’s window; all of Valkyrie’s Kuuga-esque bike action; the blacklight brawl between Eden and Zero-One; Horobi’s corkscrewing sting attack; etc etc etc.) The joy of it is how it’s a celebration of all the Kamen Riders that made Zero-One such a great series, providing roles big (Horobi, Yua) and small (Naki, Ikazuchi) to every single hero the show had. The beauty of it is in the subtle ways this movie leverages the Ark-One plot’s aftermath to make Aruto face off against a man whose grief has become a world-threatening rage. And like Metal Cluster Hopper being the solution, it seems that Bell/Lucifer is the Zero-Two version of the baddie here (accessed by mounting an Ark-based driver unit onto the Zero-One Driver), and like Zero-Two, it just did worse despite being the stronger one, as it seems to rely more on pure hand-to-hand combat, got outclassed by Aruto-Izu team up as Riders, not even getting a chance for a finisher. Other than Metal Cluster Hopper, there's the Hellrising Hopper part which is just scary and horrific, and though not that flashy, it captures the horror vibe well. There's even the creepy part of Aruto's arm dislocating though he puts it back. Quote:
It helps that Eden becomes a more compelling villain (well, antagonist) as the movie goes along. We’re still dealing with the Ark as an inescapably corrosive influence - humanity’s capacity for evil reflected back at it - but the better story is in how S loses perspective in his grief, and how that loss of perspective creates a self-destructive feedback loop of shame and guilt. The way the movie rolls out his motivations allows for a greater investment in his struggles, so that his reunion with Akane feels like a victory for both them and the heroes. Aruto can break through to S in ways other than just shouting thematically-appropriate statements, because the movie lets Aruto slowly piece together Akane’s frustrations, S’s backstory, and Thinknet’s specific role. After the excitement of the first half, the second half of the movie is all heartbreak and recriminations, and the pacing is better for backloading it.
Unfortunately though, there's another smart villain in Bell, who noticed that there's something wrong in S starting the doomsday early, thus he began to act on his own to usurp S and proceed the promise that S lied to them, successfully doing so to become the final threat of the movie as Lucifer who almost wins. Albeit even Bell seems to be less malicious than the other members, as he wasn't sadistic like them and even has less self-serving goals unlike S (he only cares about Akane, just bringing other people to create proper world). Compared to Yuya Takahashi's works, I guess S is Zero-One's version of Cronus, not in morality (Cronus' an irredeemable bastard), but in how they carry their evil plan, that they aim to create their own world by digitizing everyone else, or in S case, the ones not too rotten. Though sorry for this but dunno why I think S has some traits from Shiro Kanzaki in Ryuki, as they remade their consciousness as something else other than human (as ghost and nanomachines), want to create a world where their loved ones are there, and picked individuals they think are rotten enough to be used as their tools and killed off (other Rider War contestants as wish fuel and Paradise Guardia members), but finally gave up on their plans (not counting RT Ryuki) and die together with their loved one instead as their existence got deleted. And yeah, I'd say that Aruto's experience against Humagears play important part here to convince S that he's doing something selfish. S thinks Aruto doesn't know everything, but as a Humagear endorse Aruto knows about AI nature that they aren't heartless, but are like humans, as copying their consciousness would mean their heart is copied too, and that'd extend to Akane, who Aruto has personally met, informing S how actually AI works (in this universe). I wish that Aruto can talk about his interactions with Akane though. Quote:
It’s a great movie, all the way through. There’s some stuff I could maybe quibble over (Izu’s story gets lost in the middle; can’t believe the Naki and Ikazuchi suits aren’t at least around for the finale), but I spent half the film pumping my fist in triumph, and most of the last few minutes misty-eyed over the resolution to a story about how partnerships can’t work without communication. One of the best Zero-One things I’ve ever seen, and maybe one of the best Kamen Rider things.
Otherwise, many people before claim Gai was still smug and his behavior was similar after his 'redemption' and I was not convinced, but actually turns out it was true as shown in this movie, with Gai's speaking tone when dealing with Makio (the one stripped naked). Others seem to accept Gai better, though still quite dislike him as shown in the end, but ironically Gai displays more of his inherent creepy traits now, like torturing Makio. Seems that while he's not evil anymore, he's still not exactly a clean-cut good guy by his behavior to Makio.
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11-06-2022, 10:36 AM | #967 |
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This movie continues to be packed beyond belief that it surpasses my current memory in which I only remember things by people potentially saying them in their comments.
Somehow I had glanced over my favorite usage of Metal Cluster Hopper and didn't even mention it! I thought it was pretty smart for Aruto to go for (admittedly he had no choice) a weaker form via Metal Cluster and use its swarm ability to "infect" Eden and slowly wear him down by having the swarm just chew and mess with the nanomachines by mixing with them. It's just such a clever usage of the form and I wish they had done more cool things like this with Metal Cluster when he had gotten the Hopper Blade to control it. |
11-06-2022, 11:01 AM | #968 |
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My favorite aspect of the movie can be summed up in one sentence:
gamers rise up
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11-06-2022, 05:39 PM | #969 |
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Like, after a show full of deep debates about the meaning of humanity and how HumaGears have a place in that, suddenly it's just nanobots and this dude called S who's way less vital to the overarching plot than the finale's post-credits made him out to be. He's not even as interesting as Kabuki.
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I also wasn?t keen on the Is revival, since it cheapened her whole death. And I don?t see why they had to reshoot the movie to be post-series, given that Gaim and Drove both had post-show movies set during the series (and Kyoryuger had a whole episode made 4 years after it ended, also set between episodes). Especially since the sacrifice was the one thing you complained the movie was missing: screen time for Naki and Ikazuchi.
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But yeah, I'd also think this is one of the better KR movies, but there are glaring flaws like, I don't like Izu being returned just by the old Izu memories happening to be in Zea. I know that Humagears can be rebuilt but, this is just cheap solution to get the audience familiar instead of exploring the different Izu.
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Somehow I had glanced over my favorite usage of Metal Cluster Hopper and didn't even mention it! I thought it was pretty smart for Aruto to go for (admittedly he had no choice) a weaker form via Metal Cluster and use its swarm ability to "infect" Eden and slowly wear him down by having the swarm just chew and mess with the nanomachines by mixing with them.
You can take the Takahashi out of Ex-Aid, but you can't take the Ex-Aid out of Takahashi.
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11-06-2022, 05:51 PM | #970 |
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I would definitely put RealxTime up there as one of my favorite Summer Movies. The pacing is breakneck, it's action-packed, but there's a strong emotional undercurrent and core to the story as it expands on our antagonist, his motivation, and the fallout of the Zero-One finale.
As far as Movie Villain Riders go, I think Eden was pretty great. His suit is amazing and suitably menacing, and a character who comes off like your generic doomsday Big Bad turns out to have far more layers than you would've expected, which made the climax all the more engaging. I hope Horobi's audition for the Demon Slayer stage play went well. "Forget it Horobi, that's not the original Izu! Because you basically killed her!" - What Fuwa basically meant. That Fuwa/Jin scene was priceless though. I love how we get a great bike scene and it's a female Rider who didn't even have her own personalized bike instead of the Main Rider. Although we did get a cool bike entrance with Zero-One. Zero Two got it's first major loss right at the beginning of the movie, but it was nice to see Metal Cluster Hopper show up and actually help resolve the issue because so often with Riders it's the Final Form or bust. That said, I would've liked to have seen Zero-One's other forms because usually a Summer Movie is a good chance to bring them back or other forms that had been forgotten about. Hellrising Hopper...I mean, just the sheer pain you can feel from Aruto in the transformation stands out so much, but as a movie exclusive form that isn't on-screen for very long it's surprisingly effective. Wow, how handy would it have been to know the Riders could just bring out their weapons even untransformed. Kamen Rider Lucifer is kind of just there to fufill the need for a Final Boss, but dang it if watching Aruto and Izu as Double Riders fighting to RealxEyes isn't super satisfying. Like, it feels so perfect and fitting, especially given the pair being such close partners and how Zero Two homages Nigo, and was nice to watch on-screen. Also a female Rider that basically matches the Main Rider at that point. The Izu thing...honestly I think it's kept deliberately vague whether Izu is now 100% the original Izu or if it's New Izu with her memories and having to react to that, so in a way she's effectively the same but maybe not exactly if they want to play with it that way. At least that was my takeaway. I love how Gai is at a point where he wants everyone to work with him and still at a point where no one even humors him. Ending on Aruto and Izu fighting in a wedding chapel after they fought off a bunch of baddies together...catching some vibes there. Also, speaking of RealxEyes, the ED was a straight banger. |
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