[Jello]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Yeah, it's not like Zero-One had political themes to begin with or anything


The whole allergy against "politics" in their medium that comic readers have going on right now is pathetic. Comics always dealt with social and political issues, and some of these mediums like Watchmen are now celebrated as classics.

But today, today it is done "wrong" of course. Bullshit, it's just dealing with themes these people are unable or unwilling to be confronted with, since they throw a screaming fit whenever a queer character dares to exist or god forbid, racism is addressed.

I'm gonna be that guy, and then never touch this thread again for my own well-being.

Zero One's take on racism was more nuanced, about explicitly racist characters (like Aruto, Fuwa and even Yua to an extent) seeing the error of their ways and changing for the better.

Most American political media treats human nature as solid, and thus, bad people can never be good. Instead of a helping hand, it's a knife towards those the creators don't agree with by saying "you will always be the villain" and just making that divide bigger. This goes for both sides, by the way.

[TheRaizin]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Yeah, it's not like Zero-One had political themes to begin with or anything

Looking back now, that scene was pretty bad. Definitely felt like it was added on a whim to reflect current times without much thought. Doesn't help with what happens to the series afterwards :P

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Originally Posted by Jello

Most American political media treats human nature as solid, and thus, bad people can never be good. Instead of a helping hand, it's a knife towards those the creators don't agree with by saying "you will always be the villain" and just making that divide bigger. This goes for both sides, by the way.

Couldn't have said it better myself, honestly. I agree that politics have been part of comics and media, but I don't think they were ever this obnoxious. Unless we talk about Marvel's original Civil War

[Deathryuger321]

Comics have never been a subtle medium. As someone who has recently started reading American comics, an X-Men story from 2018 was no more political than one from 2001, which was no more political than one from 1994. They are all blatantly political.

But somehow it's different now.

I am going to regret saying this and not just leaving the thread and never looking back.

[Enchilada645]

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Did not need to see the Kuuga manga translated! These decisions continue to baffle me, especially when the manga for Black and W are right there with their adaptions right around the corner.

Something tells me they made the decision on which Manga to translate because they somehow felt, having the Manga translated for Fuuto Tantei or Black would draw attention away from both projects rather than promote it.

[GoldenXtreme]

I’m just worried about that Zero-One graphic novel because Westerners adapting something from Japan often ends up rough to say the least. On the other hand, worst case it just gets thrown on the pile with other bad toku content that already exists, so no harm done I suppose.

[Shin Henshin]

Interested in seeing what's done with the Zero One material but I mean...really...if you didn't think it got political or that the whole "human rights" aspect wasn't in play for the entirety of the series...cause it was...then I honestly don't know what to tell you. Cause it's what makes the series so interesting and personal in some cases.

What ever blinders you purchased should get a high product rating cause they're doing their jobs amazingly.

[Frontier]

I wonder if they'll get Kyle Higgins for the Zero-One comic since he seems to be the go-to guy for American tokusatsu comics.

[Kurona]

Is a bit annoying that whenever anything like this happens the topic is INSTANTLY “westerners force politics….” like come on lol

[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Is a bit annoying that whenever anything like this happens the topic is INSTANTLY ?westerners force politics?.? like come on lol

I mean, my immediate first thought was how they'd adapt it and whether they'd be able to stay true to the characters, story, and deliver a proper Kamen Rider story.

[MKDremare]

My first thought is more, "God I am just tired of western adaptations of any and all foreign media", regardless of what it is. Almost every single western adaptation I've seen has been EXTREMELY inferior compared to the original, even if they say stuff like "Oh you should judge it on its own merits", like yea, and they were pretty shit ON their own merits.

Best and most recent example is Netflix Cowboy Bebop. Like I've only tangentially watched parts of Cowboy Bebop myself (never really was into it), but watching the Netflix adaptation was like, "Wow, this sucks without even understanding anything about the original".

The only one I give any sort of slack to is Power Rangers, considering its very nature as an adaptation of Super Sentai. But that slack isn't enough to stop me from criticisms of individual seasons.