[Paladin]

The Desire Royale heads into overtime as confrontations break out amongst the Riders.

[DreadBringer]

Multiple "just forget" in this episode. One episode before Yearning Arc ends, different from the leaks.

Unlike Daichi, who wants to greedily eliminate multiple players at once and makes enemies for it, Keiwa, Neon, and Sara actually worked together to eliminate the common threat by uniting the ID Cores in Sara's hands, and that almost places her as the winner, if not for Michinaga's encounter with Archimedel that also elevates him in the same place. Keiwa and Sara's talk that is related to the DGP also finally happens to beat the invincible Michinaga that Sueru pits them, to have Sara also show her thoughts about the Heaven and Hell victims. Still not much thoughts from Sara regarding her brother's killer.

And for now, Neon still sticks to her decision to have her fans forget about her, despite at least Sara assuring her devotion to her before. The first one to have ignorance is bliss approach to others, despite her preferring to have her remember the tragedies in her life to Kyuun. Though she doesn't do atrocities to force her approach to others unlike the next ones, her self-loathing does have her take a misguided path. She better continue her chapter by going to the future to search for home (wondering if the future can connect to the present), if she's uncertain about it being the place where she belongs.

As he has now developed, now Kyuun is also just straightforward to report her that the DR won't grant any winner's wishes, to get her to stop fighting inside it, instead of likely insulting her to get her quit DR or something. It's blunt and maybe unpleasant for her to hear, but still shows that insulting isn't a part of being honest, and he's not anything wrong to tell a truth in ways like that. Though even with the DR being pointless, it won't be something that gets her immediately quitting being a Rider, at least to protect Sara. This is so far is just a setup for 3 of them for now, but I'd wonder what happens next after Neon actually got the worst outcome she'd get as the DezaStar before (which actually drove her desperate), being permanently retired as Rider per DR rules and no chance for her wish. Or about how Sara's stint as Hakubi following this, which already got a build up in her supporting the 2 people she mimicked her pose with.

Obviously, the outcome for invincible Buffa wouldn't be changed with the party getting nothing new. And for now, Na-Go and Hakubi are eliminated, with Tycoon inheriting their ID Cores. So Na-Go's move in protecting Sara is shielding her with her body, both times against Nadge-Sparrow and Buffa here, of which the latter has the attack hit both of them. It's more minor compared to Tycoon's following, but Buffa insisting the Riders to just live a normal life and forget everything about themselves as Riders and the DGP is met with objections from the girls, thus he'd still be imposing his belief to others without considering those who aren't in the same page as him. Buffa thinks the only "right" way to live must only be about being retired to normal life.... and that's something that made him hate Ace so much due to him telling Michinaga that back when he saw Toru died, actually becoming just like Ace himself.

Buffa claims that misery is brought by one's tenure as a Rider and the granted wishes, including Tycoon's. But as usual, he's ignorant that he himself is complicit in it, and actually has his wish granted unlike others here, while he also brought misery to others himself by joining the JGP, a game designed to maximize that. Him working out to deal with a problem doesn't mean that he's not another problem itself (and same goes for many other villains "having a point", they shouldn't be elevated and get double standard/free pass). Tycoon knows about the Goddess sacrificing others' happiness and lives, but he'd also think the only way to revert that is the same power, and like the other 2, he objects to forgetting, ignorance shouldn't be something encouraged. And now it's revealed that Buffa doesn't respect Keiwa's mindset, to think that his ideals are empty, so that'd be why he doesn't win Buffa over either.

Other than helping Ace, Win turns out to be a reliable ally overall here, with him being an informant regarding DGP's insides. Has extra information too with him looking up for DGP archives, compared to ep. 14. Also continuing his good terms with Tsumuri (at least since ep. 14). I wonder why those 2 can easily access the DGP archives without risks, so far, considering how secretive the DGP is, including Tsumuri's constant reminders, or that the higher-ups are overconfident their plan will succeed and everyone will forget thus they don't pay mind to them looking over it. Geats' take of Gaia Library of W or Zea's data in Zero-One (along with Izu and Tsumuri being there respectively), but now it doesn't take place in white void room.

New information revealed, both in and out of universe would be Mitsume's origins that she came from the future, got her powers from a prayer, and the prayer is why Ace was born, the power is just an extra. She's actually married to someone to give birth to Ace, but with special case following the established rule of past and future child being unable to give birth. As usual, there's still more questions on how Mitsume also got her powers from her prayer and what'd be the forbidden door talked about here. Otherwise, this just highlights the DGP's cruelty further by erasing Mitsume husband's existence, and capturing Mitsume to be used as a tool, and adding a rule to forbid romances between Desire God and Navigator. Now Keiwa has heard from Win that Mitsume is just a tool. He still walks away, but I hope that Keiwa would acknowledge that Mitsume is innocent, which is official now.

Another reveal is that, Sueru claims Goddess' power weaken over time, which'd be the real reason why he launched Grand End now. Though dunno about the reason why they have to move to different era to have a new Goddess replacement - likely Tsumuri. Good thing about Sueru is that he straight up tries to eliminate Ace on spot by wishing it himself, no-nonsense for him, but it fails as Sueru's claims of the Goddess not having her own will is proven wrong, and Ace's faith in his mom is right that she wouldn't forsake her son. Sueru would still continue to view anyone around him as tools to use until they ran out of use due to damage and dispose them with a new one, like Masamune discontinuing living beings. Unknown what happened for the unrevealed Beroba and Kekera's wishes though before, to decide if it's Mitsume weakening or Mitsume still having some will.

Ziin is also being helpful to Ace to actually learn a thing or two from him by setting up Niram to reveal Mitsume's fate right in front of Ace while handing the Vision Driver to him. Now with Win revealing the truth, like Neon and Michinaga above, Niram continues to insist that Ace should just forget all of the DGP and live his life as an Ukiyo son. Like the latter, Niram presents this as the best outcome Ace can get, but obviously this disregards Ace's individuality like how it's not his choice to reincarnate or inherit previous memories, and this is likely just done to have Ace stop getting in his way. Likely lip service in Niram acting baffled on why he chose this hard path. Though Ace himself also should realize that this isn't the best thing to tell others himself as well, to just forget everything and return to normal life, by this. Which also comes from Mitsume telling him that.

Geats LaserBoost and Gazer rematch happens, and it seems that LaserBoost isn't really much below Gazer to land some solid hits, though Gazer retains upper hand. Though if stats are to be considered, it says something about Niram's skill to put a fight against Geats in a form established as equal, compared to Buffa having a hard time against Geats Magnum with Command Twin. And Gazer's Dominionrays are consistently used as usual, which is good and one of higher points for Geats' fighting scenes. LaserBoost also suffers official defeat when he lost his composure, as Niram noted, getting bombarded by the Dominionrays. So it's official that Gazer > LaserBoost and Ace really needs something else to take it on, the Boost Mark III he awakened at the end. Though the form's looks is disappointing to me, at least so far the special effects surrounding it are great. It's power is also shown in 4th wall breaking way to alter the rules stated each end of the episode. Being a control freak, Niram will probably react like Ryoma and Kuroto (Gaim + Ex-Aid again) for Mark III here.

[Sh Ranger]

Ace (collectively) and Jeremy Brasieri are both 2000+ year-old white heroes with fathers who were erased from history. It's surprising when SHT partners parallel each other like this.

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Tycoon knows about the Goddess sacrificing others' happiness and lives, but he'd also think the only way to revert that is the same power, and like the other 2, he objects to forgetting, ignorance shouldn't be something encouraged. And now it's revealed that Buffa doesn't respect Keiwa's mindset, to think that his ideals are empty, so that'd be why he doesn't win Buffa over either.

Keiwa is in some serious denial here, broadly claiming it's okay to want a little happiness, despite Michinaga reminding him that using the DGP to grant that happiness would still make others suffer. The part where Keiwa said his desire was non-negotiable was especially concerning. While Michinaga may have a little respect for Keiwa as one of the few trustworthy Riders, I can understand why that line would tick him off, as his life was ruined by Riders who'd have no limits in the pursuit of their desires. Once more, Keiwa's cynicism is getting in the way of his ideals.

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Unknown what happened for the unrevealed Beroba and Kekera's wishes though before, to decide if it's Mitsume weakening or Mitsume still having some will.

I have a bad feeling that Kekera's desire might bring misfortune to Sara.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

So it's official that Gazer > LaserBoost and Ace really needs something else to take it on, the Boost Mark III he awakened at the end. Though the form's looks is disappointing to me, at least so far the special effects surrounding it are great. It's power is also shown in 4th wall breaking way to alter the rules stated each end of the episode. Being a control freak, Niram will probably react like Ryoma and Kuroto (Gaim + Ex-Aid again) for Mark III here.

I imagine Boost Mk. III's reality warping power will be how Geats manages to get Na-Go and Hakubi back in the game, by destroying the "permanently" part of the "eliminated Riders in Desire Royale are permanently disqualified" rule. Although I wonder if this power is free to use, or if it has the same desire cost that Mitsume has, or maybe a different kind of cost.

[Daikaijuman54]

Halleluiah: "Love and Peace! Yeah!" Banjo (out of nowhere): "Where the hell am I?"

It all comes back to the guys in charge. Here I was wondering who Ace's father was, and now it makes sense. Tsumuri mentions people in the future can't have offspring, which fits how none of them have noticeable surnames and how they're "designed" to be whatever they want to be; however, I'm wondering if removing the means to produce offspring was implemented to them after the incident. I don't know why my mind wanted to wander there, but here we are. On another note, I'm wondering if there's a plot McGuffin hidden here about Ace's Dad having some hand in Ace's power-ups.

As is per usual for noble characters like Keiwa, he's starting to lose sight of his ideals (slightly), as he thinks it's perfectly fine to desire a wish from the Goddess if it's for a good cause. It is a good thing to want, but knowing the reprimandations (inventing words now, ha ha) can it still be considered "good." Curious what Beroba and Kekera's (whom is nice to see his human form again) wishes will bring to the table (probably another DGP of some sort).

And now the rematch between Gazer and Geats, with the debut of Boost Mk. III, which isn't the best, but leads to the best design for a Final Form for him, with apparently the ability to break the rules (likely courtesy of his mom, thanks, mom!).

Next Episode: "Final Form Time!" -The Quote for Every Kamen Rider Episode with a Final Form Debuting Since I Joined

[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Keiwa is in some serious denial here, broadly claiming it's okay to want a little happiness, despite Michinaga reminding him that using the DGP to grant that happiness would still make others suffer. The part where Keiwa said his desire was non-negotiable was especially concerning. While Michinaga may have a little respect for Keiwa as one of the few trustworthy Riders, I can understand why that line would tick him off, as his life was ruined by Riders who'd have no limits in the pursuit of their desires. Once more, Keiwa's cynicism is getting in the way of his ideals.

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Originally Posted by Daikaijuman54

As is per usual for noble characters like Keiwa, he's starting to lose sight of his ideals (slightly), as he thinks it's perfectly fine to desire a wish from the Goddess if it's for a good cause. It is a good thing to want, but knowing the reprimandations (inventing words now, ha ha) can it still be considered "good."

I think that people should realize about how characters don't know everything like the real life audience does. I do think that he's unreasonable as for this late, but can't call him blind yet for not knowing the actual truth, only hearing things from various people (like Daichi, and now Michinaga), and currently being informed by Win (his rage got calmed for now, but if he's still in denial later, then yeah he'd be blind). And for the wish, I thought the wish is about using the already dead people as fuel, not taking from what's already there in present (not like the wish directly kills people or such) and using it for something else will convert those people into what the wish needed, but about wishes like reverting things and bring back people, I speculate it'd be just, using the dead people as fuels to, bring back people, practically just restoring them back and not being converted to something else. And Michinaga's one of those who actually has the same kind of wishes got granted.

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I have a bad feeling that Kekera's desire might bring misfortune to Sara.

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Originally Posted by Daikaijuman54

Curious what Beroba and Kekera's (whom is nice to see his human form again) wishes will bring to the table (probably another DGP of some sort).

Actually it's revealed now. Here are their wishes: https://twitter.com/Sherotoku/status...O3p1XWOKg&s=19

It's simply just self-preservance in the face of Grand End.

[Daikaijuman54]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

I think that people should realize about how characters don't know everything like the real life audience does. I do think that he's unreasonable as for this late, but can't call him blind yet for not knowing the actual truth, only hearing things from various people (like Daichi, and now Michinaga), and currently being informed by Win (his rage got calmed for now, but if he's still in denial later, then yeah he'd be blind). And for the wish, I thought the wish is about using the already dead people as fuel, not taking from what's already there in present (not like the wish directly kills people or such) and using it for something else will convert those people into what the wish needed, but about wishes like reverting things and bring back people, I speculate it'd be just, using the dead people as fuels to, bring back people, practically just restoring them back and not being converted to something else. And Michinaga's one of those who actually has the same kind of wishes got granted.

I do understand. I was simply stating that it was something I've seen before with characters like Keiwa. It's understandable form his perspective (heck, I'd go as far as to say I'd root for him) but given how Buffa mentions continuing the very thing that's responsible for taking the lives of those who've been used as fuel for the Rider's wishes, he's still firmly willing to fight for that noble desire, despite Buffa doing exactly what he set out to destroy. Nothing wrong with that. It's all down to perspective, and again, I was simply noting how I've seen this kind of character arc before, not that I have anything against it.

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Actually it's revealed now. Here are their wishes: https://twitter.com/Sherotoku/status...O3p1XWOKg&s=19

It's simply just self-preservance in the face of Grand End.

Ah, makes sense. Then again, I also had the notion that it could have been for say setup for something in the future, which is always possible in these kinds of scenarios. But still, thanks for the information, truly appreciated!

[LarryFoster]

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