Dino Fury Season 2 Discussion Thread- NETFLIX EXCLUSIVE!

TokuKnight89 · 10-10-2022, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

Anyway I'm here to say that Dino Fury reeks of Power Rangers trying to be more like the MCU when it never had to be given it was already connected. And that's going to harm the franchise the further that mindset sets in than help it. The MCU was a mistake even if it gave us some fun movies, because everyone is trying to emulate it now even if it makes no sense to do so.

I've tried, but I can't understand this train of thought.

First, saying that the MCU was a "mistake". The interconnectivity of the MCU isn't guilty of anything. The execution may have some hiccups, but if you hate it and all that its done, then it's a personal decision, not a universal truth. We've already had people who say that the MCU is not real cinema, and such people are guilty of more harm than they could possibly know! The detractors will ultimately accomplish nothing. If the MCU is guilty of anything, it's inspiring imitators, but that is largely the fault of money-grubbing fools who want to duplicate the successes of the MCU without realizing why the MCU works the way it does and making no real effort to really flesh their out their own worlds.

Second, if Power Rangers is already interconnected, then why is it a bad thing to lean into that? The franchise is vast and the nature of a franchise is to echo what came before, for better and worse. The franchise is also part-and-parcel of Sentai, which has also been bouncing off its own past in recent memory, which really started with Gokaiger. Every anniversary episode of Power Rangers is ultimately a reference to the past. The problem is the nostalgia craze preventing any relevant stories beyond a Mighty Morphin' free-for-all! If you reference the past, you have to reference all of the past and not just the heyday of popularity in a vain attempt to recapture bygone successes.

I have always championed the idea of an anthological spin-off which freely references all aspects of PR. It feels like the right answer to me.

But should interconnectivity be established in the series proper? A hit and miss approach. Are the Morphin' Masters the proper face to proper retcons? I can see why it would work, but I'm not in the majority on that, and there are admittedly some other characters who are probably more deserving.

dreamcastegirl · 10-13-2022, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

Master Green is already a big joke on social media once the reveal of what she did came into play. So I don't see any further attempts to try and push the Morphin Masters, going off as well as people think they might since this is already a pretty worrying botch.

My heart aches to read this! The Morphin' Masters were an aspect of this show that really landed for me. I think that during the later episodes, I would have liked their actions to be kind of a bit more oblique rather than them coming down and airing their dirty laundry in front of mere mortals, but as a premise I feel there's so much about their role that I want to read/write about in regards to them. Being out here in the wild and not really knowing how other people are reacting to this, it makes me a bit sad to discover I'm the outlier.

I do agree with you 200% that you do not need to tangibly explain miracles, but at their best, I think you can use the Morphin' Masters as a way of reinforcing that principle, not explaining it away.

Sh Ranger · 10-16-2022, 09:37 AM

18:
The haunted Stine Hotel was a neat Goosebumps reference. Pretty novel how the Rangers take a trip to Japan, which is of course a good excuse to use a lot of Sentai footage without having to explain all the Japanese stuff, since it's canonically the same place. I recall the SPD and Overdrive Rangers also had trips to Japan, but this might be the first to actually celebrate contemporary Japanese culture, with the Rangers being excited about trying all the cuisine. I thought Ollie was unnecessarily cold here though, ignoring Dr. Akana's call due to being distracted by planning his date with Amelia. In the S1 finale, he was the only one who expressed serious concern about his mother's safety, so now it's weird that his priorities are so wrong and like, he somehow forgot or didn't realize that people actually needed his research.

19:
It's a little ridiculous how the Voids have so much advanced technology and yet they're completely dependent on Warden Buzzkill's industrial drill to break in to the Rangers' base. The drill's password is the date this episode is set, March 12th, which is very different from the date the second half of this season was released on Netflix. However, this is consistent with Ninja Steel taking place 6 months in the future, so I presume the same is true here. Intriguing how Javi and Izzy were able to break their own spell simply by remembering good times with their parents, which makes me think that maybe the Voids' own Sporix mutations might also be reversible (unless it was just Master Green

). I enjoyed Zayto's enthusiastic comebacks to Wreckmate, with just how much he didn't give a damn about the anachronistic piratisms. Like when a 65000000 year-old tells you you don't make sense, then that's something to be ashamed about!

20:
The Rafkonians have arrived! Pretty simple explanation about where they've been, just wandering the universe while Rafkon's biosphere rejuvenated, until its recent destruction necessitated a new permanent home for their kind. Their leader, Orria, intends to conquer Earth for themselves rather than negotiate with its current inhabitants, as she believes humans will only destroy it, which is pretty hypocritical considering how the Sporix Wars started. Fortunately, a mass Sporix emergence forces them to call a truce with the Rangers, which gives Orria a chance to see for herself that humans are worthy of co-existing with them, when Pop-Pop saves her from a Sporix while contributing to a reforestation effort. The big reveal comes at the end, where it turns out that not only 1/3, but 1/2 of the Dino Fury Rangers are aliens, with Amelia (whose name even sounds similar to "alien" now that I think about it) being the daughter of two that came to Earth in the past. Definitely curious to see where that goes!

Next week, I'll give my thoughts on the last two episodes, Dino Fury overall, as well as my hopes and predictions for Cosmic Fury!

DreamSword · 10-16-2022, 11:59 PM

Ollie was definitely out of character when it came to episode 18. While I get that the writers wanted it to come across that he became to so enamored with Amelia that he stopped taking care of his other responsibilities, him just completely forgetting his mom does stand in stark contrast with how he was established throughout season 1.

On the other end though, the episode never brings up that, to be blunt, it also isn't Ollie's' responsibility to do his mother's' job, as Ollie is in no way employed by her or the company that she works for. Was it bad that he agreed to help but didn't? Yes. But it's also not any sort of contractual obligation that he should be forced into and/or 100% expected to follow through on.

Looking forward to your final thoughts on the show!

Sh Ranger · 10-22-2022, 10:12 AM

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Huh, so Amelia isn't merely some random alien, she's actually a Rafkonian! And her parents are the Voids! Honestly, I'd thought Tarrick was too young to have a teenage/early 20s daughter, but later I was surprised to find out his actor is actually in the 40s, he looks good. Of course, Rangerwiki already spoiled part of this plot twist for me, but it's still a good twist and I'm grateful that so much of this final arc is focused on my favorite Ranger of the team and maybe even my favorite Pink Ranger of the franchise at this point. I'm also grateful that Wreckmate finally sleeps with the fishes, now I can stop hating on him all the time.

Ollie is fine with the revelation that his new gf is an alien, an unexpected partner for our supernatural-denying skeptic but I think that's what makes it work. Yeah, I actually think it's a decent ship now.

22:
Going to need multiple paragraphs for this one.

I think it would've been a cool opportunity if they adapted Ryusoul Brown here, like to show Void Knight losing power after Tarrick teleports Void Queen to the desert. It would only be a small detail, but I think the Ryusoul Brown suit deserved way more than what it got.

Nemesis is incredibly strong on its own, but still goes down easier than its counterpart Eras, who actually survived the Ryusoul Calibur's ultimate attack and only lost cause she conceded. Nevertheless, I was impressed to see all the PR-exclusive CGI action here, with the Rangers actually fighting on Nemesis to get to Void Queen! Hasbro seriously put a lot of effort in to this!

I like to pretend that Zayto repeating his "Cool cool coolio" line is a tribute to the recently deceased rapper Coolio, even though I know it makes no chronological sense out of universe. R.I.P.

Ironic how Tarrick and Santaura decided to turn their former prison in to their new home, along with the other roaming Rafkonians. I guess it grew on them during their time as villains, at least the part of it outside of the cell the corrupt government kept them in.

Thanks to the survival of Rafkonian culture, Aiyon now has the means to produce and sell flargen cake and other native cuisine to the humans. His alien biology is also public, with his antennae being clearly visible on his business' logo. Maybe this is a prelude to how aliens have become commonplace in human society by the time of SPD.

Just like their counterparts, Mucus and Slyther survived and now they're using their powers for good to bring entertainment to people. They're some of the most enjoyable villains recently, so I'm glad they got a happy ending and path of redemption. Maybe it would've been better if there was a part where Slyther actually got his memories back but decided to continue to be Mucus' friend anyway, but I still appreciate what they got.

....

Well, that's it for Dino Fury. Personally, I think this show easily eclipses Beast Morphers, the entirety of the Saban Brands Era and most of the Disney and Saban Eras. It has good comedy, an overarching mystery, lovable characters on both sides, a strong connection to the lore, a generous amount of PR-exclusive footage. When it was announced that one of my favorite Sentai was getting adapted, I had high expectations from the start and now I'm glad to say it definitely didn't disappoint. Even compared directly to Ryusoulger, it's hard for me to say which one was better, they both have amazing qualities, despite a few flaws. I wouldn't mind if this was the end for these characters, it's a good place to leave their story, but I'm getting even more of them next year and that's exciting!

So what's next for Cosmic Fury? Most likely, it's going to follow the events of the epilogue. Lord Zedd has somehow escaped from the Morphin' Masters' captivity (hopefully a reassurance to anybody who was worried they were too OP) and Zayto has been revived as Dino Fury White to lead his team against him, effective immediately. And with their Zords and major power-ups destroyed, they're going to need new equipment. I think it will continue to involve the Morphin' Masters, but more specifically their weaknesses instead of their strengths, how they lost Lord Zedd and how their recent actions have caught the attention of their mysterious enemies, possibly Don Armage's counterpart. I guess we have to thank Lord Zedd anyway, since his escape is literally the reason why the Morphin' Masters decided to revive Zayto at all.

I haven't even talked about the new suits yet. Firstly, I'm annoyed how the Gold Ranger's boots are gold now. They're supposed to be navy! Other than that, I respect Hasbro's ambition to try something this original and I'm excited to see how a 10-episode season featuring only PR-exclusive Ranger suits with the Kyuranger Zords will look like in action. With a new MMPR-focused movie coming soon as well, there's never been a better time to be a PR fan!

DreamSword · 10-22-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I think it would've been a cool opportunity if they adapted Ryusoul Brown here, like to show Void Knight losing power after Tarrick teleports Void Queen to the desert. It would only be a small detail, but I think the Ryusoul Brown suit deserved way more than what it got.

I agree with you here. Even if they felt like the Ryusoul Brown stock footage wouldn't've fit Tarrick specifically, considering how much money Hasbro is willing to put into original footage as-is they could've just filmed an original sequence with the suit, even if it was short.

By the way, apparently Zayto's' new form is known as the "Ghost Ranger."

Anyway, I'm glad you got alot of enjoyment out of Dino Fury, as did alot of people from what I can gather. It certainly does do alot of neat things, but for me personally it just kinda fell short in terms of alot of things that I personally love about the franchise. But, especially for those who didn't care for the Neo-Saban Era, I can certainly see where the appeal might lie.

Glad you had fun and I look forward to discussing Cosmic Fury with you!

Sh Ranger · 10-22-2022, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

By the way, apparently Zayto's' new form is known as the "Ghost Ranger."

Spooky!

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

Anyway, I'm glad you got alot of enjoyment out of Dino Fury, as did alot of people from what I can gather. It certainly does do alot of neat things, but for me personally it just kinda fell short in terms of alot of things that I personally love about the franchise. But, especially for those who didn't care for the Neo-Saban Era, I can certainly see where the appeal might lie.

I don't even mind the Saban Brands Era, despite being a significant downgrade from the much more popular Disney Era. I enjoyed Samurai a lot. Hell, I'm one of the few Mega Force fans. Ninja Steel was mixed, but that also had some strong moments. Still need to watch Dino Charge at some point though.

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

Glad you had fun and I look forward to discussing Cosmic Fury with you!

Likewise! I was pleasantly surprised to see so much discussion and debate about Episode 15, so I hope I can encourage more of that, especially with Cosmic Fury being such a short season even by modern standards.

Since I no longer need to worry about spoilers for now, I'll go check out your own final thoughts on Dino Fury in the PR watch thread as well.

10-13-2022, 04:22 AM	#32
dreamcastegirl Yodonna oshi Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 748	Quote: Originally Posted by Enchilada645 Master Green is already a big joke on social media once the reveal of what she did came into play. So I don't see any further attempts to try and push the Morphin Masters, going off as well as people think they might since this is already a pretty worrying botch. My heart aches to read this! The Morphin' Masters were an aspect of this show that really landed for me. I think that during the later episodes, I would have liked their actions to be kind of a bit more oblique rather than them coming down and airing their dirty laundry in front of mere mortals, but as a premise I feel there's so much about their role that I want to read/write about in regards to them. Being out here in the wild and not really knowing how other people are reacting to this, it makes me a bit sad to discover I'm the outlier. I do agree with you 200% that you do not need to tangibly explain miracles, but at their best, I think you can use the Morphin' Masters as a way of reinforcing that principle, not explaining it away. __________________ nonsense \| fanzines

10-16-2022, 09:37 AM	#33
Sh Ranger Standing By Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,876	18: The haunted Stine Hotel was a neat Goosebumps reference. Pretty novel how the Rangers take a trip to Japan, which is of course a good excuse to use a lot of Sentai footage without having to explain all the Japanese stuff, since it's canonically the same place. I recall the SPD and Overdrive Rangers also had trips to Japan, but this might be the first to actually celebrate contemporary Japanese culture, with the Rangers being excited about trying all the cuisine. I thought Ollie was unnecessarily cold here though, ignoring Dr. Akana's call due to being distracted by planning his date with Amelia. In the S1 finale, he was the only one who expressed serious concern about his mother's safety, so now it's weird that his priorities are so wrong and like, he somehow forgot or didn't realize that people actually needed his research. 19: It's a little ridiculous how the Voids have so much advanced technology and yet they're completely dependent on Warden Buzzkill's industrial drill to break in to the Rangers' base. The drill's password is the date this episode is set, March 12th, which is very different from the date the second half of this season was released on Netflix. However, this is consistent with Ninja Steel taking place 6 months in the future, so I presume the same is true here. Intriguing how Javi and Izzy were able to break their own spell simply by remembering good times with their parents, which makes me think that maybe the Voids' own Sporix mutations might also be reversible (unless it was just Master Green ). I enjoyed Zayto's enthusiastic comebacks to Wreckmate, with just how much he didn't give a damn about the anachronistic piratisms. Like when a 65000000 year-old tells you you don't make sense, then that's something to be ashamed about! 20: The Rafkonians have arrived! Pretty simple explanation about where they've been, just wandering the universe while Rafkon's biosphere rejuvenated, until its recent destruction necessitated a new permanent home for their kind. Their leader, Orria, intends to conquer Earth for themselves rather than negotiate with its current inhabitants, as she believes humans will only destroy it, which is pretty hypocritical considering how the Sporix Wars started. Fortunately, a mass Sporix emergence forces them to call a truce with the Rangers, which gives Orria a chance to see for herself that humans are worthy of co-existing with them, when Pop-Pop saves her from a Sporix while contributing to a reforestation effort. The big reveal comes at the end, where it turns out that not only 1/3, but 1/2 of the Dino Fury Rangers are aliens, with Amelia (whose name even sounds similar to "alien" now that I think about it) being the daughter of two that came to Earth in the past. Definitely curious to see where that goes! Next week, I'll give my thoughts on the last two episodes, Dino Fury overall, as well as my hopes and predictions for Cosmic Fury! __________________ 心と刃

10-16-2022, 11:59 PM	#34
DreamSword Some guy. I'm alright. Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,109	Ollie was definitely out of character when it came to episode 18. While I get that the writers wanted it to come across that he became to so enamored with Amelia that he stopped taking care of his other responsibilities, him just completely forgetting his mom does stand in stark contrast with how he was established throughout season 1. On the other end though, the episode never brings up that, to be blunt, it also isn't Ollie's' responsibility to do his mother's' job, as Ollie is in no way employed by her or the company that she works for. Was it bad that he agreed to help but didn't? Yes. But it's also not any sort of contractual obligation that he should be forced into and/or 100% expected to follow through on. Looking forward to your final thoughts on the show! __________________ Watch Tekkouki Mikazuki With Me! \| Tokucasts w/ Friends!

10-22-2022, 10:12 AM	#35
Sh Ranger Standing By Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,876	21: Huh, so Amelia isn't merely some random alien, she's actually a Rafkonian! And her parents are the Voids! Honestly, I'd thought Tarrick was too young to have a teenage/early 20s daughter, but later I was surprised to find out his actor is actually in the 40s, he looks good. Of course, Rangerwiki already spoiled part of this plot twist for me, but it's still a good twist and I'm grateful that so much of this final arc is focused on my favorite Ranger of the team and maybe even my favorite Pink Ranger of the franchise at this point. I'm also grateful that Wreckmate finally sleeps with the fishes, now I can stop hating on him all the time. Ollie is fine with the revelation that his new gf is an alien, an unexpected partner for our supernatural-denying skeptic but I think that's what makes it work. Yeah, I actually think it's a decent ship now. 22: Going to need multiple paragraphs for this one. I think it would've been a cool opportunity if they adapted Ryusoul Brown here, like to show Void Knight losing power after Tarrick teleports Void Queen to the desert. It would only be a small detail, but I think the Ryusoul Brown suit deserved way more than what it got. Nemesis is incredibly strong on its own, but still goes down easier than its counterpart Eras, who actually survived the Ryusoul Calibur's ultimate attack and only lost cause she conceded. Nevertheless, I was impressed to see all the PR-exclusive CGI action here, with the Rangers actually fighting on Nemesis to get to Void Queen! Hasbro seriously put a lot of effort in to this! I like to pretend that Zayto repeating his "Cool cool coolio" line is a tribute to the recently deceased rapper Coolio, even though I know it makes no chronological sense out of universe. R.I.P. Ironic how Tarrick and Santaura decided to turn their former prison in to their new home, along with the other roaming Rafkonians. I guess it grew on them during their time as villains, at least the part of it outside of the cell the corrupt government kept them in. Thanks to the survival of Rafkonian culture, Aiyon now has the means to produce and sell flargen cake and other native cuisine to the humans. His alien biology is also public, with his antennae being clearly visible on his business' logo. Maybe this is a prelude to how aliens have become commonplace in human society by the time of SPD. Just like their counterparts, Mucus and Slyther survived and now they're using their powers for good to bring entertainment to people. They're some of the most enjoyable villains recently, so I'm glad they got a happy ending and path of redemption. Maybe it would've been better if there was a part where Slyther actually got his memories back but decided to continue to be Mucus' friend anyway, but I still appreciate what they got. .... Well, that's it for Dino Fury. Personally, I think this show easily eclipses Beast Morphers, the entirety of the Saban Brands Era and most of the Disney and Saban Eras. It has good comedy, an overarching mystery, lovable characters on both sides, a strong connection to the lore, a generous amount of PR-exclusive footage. When it was announced that one of my favorite Sentai was getting adapted, I had high expectations from the start and now I'm glad to say it definitely didn't disappoint. Even compared directly to Ryusoulger, it's hard for me to say which one was better, they both have amazing qualities, despite a few flaws. I wouldn't mind if this was the end for these characters, it's a good place to leave their story, but I'm getting even more of them next year and that's exciting! So what's next for Cosmic Fury? Most likely, it's going to follow the events of the epilogue. Lord Zedd has somehow escaped from the Morphin' Masters' captivity (hopefully a reassurance to anybody who was worried they were too OP) and Zayto has been revived as Dino Fury White to lead his team against him, effective immediately. And with their Zords and major power-ups destroyed, they're going to need new equipment. I think it will continue to involve the Morphin' Masters, but more specifically their weaknesses instead of their strengths, how they lost Lord Zedd and how their recent actions have caught the attention of their mysterious enemies, possibly Don Armage's counterpart. I guess we have to thank Lord Zedd anyway, since his escape is literally the reason why the Morphin' Masters decided to revive Zayto at all. I haven't even talked about the new suits yet. Firstly, I'm annoyed how the Gold Ranger's boots are gold now. They're supposed to be navy! Other than that, I respect Hasbro's ambition to try something this original and I'm excited to see how a 10-episode season featuring only PR-exclusive Ranger suits with the Kyuranger Zords will look like in action. With a new MMPR-focused movie coming soon as well, there's never been a better time to be a PR fan! __________________ 心と刃

10-22-2022, 10:28 AM	#36
DreamSword Some guy. I'm alright. Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,109	Quote: Originally Posted by Sh Ranger I think it would've been a cool opportunity if they adapted Ryusoul Brown here, like to show Void Knight losing power after Tarrick teleports Void Queen to the desert. It would only be a small detail, but I think the Ryusoul Brown suit deserved way more than what it got. I agree with you here. Even if they felt like the Ryusoul Brown stock footage wouldn't've fit Tarrick specifically, considering how much money Hasbro is willing to put into original footage as-is they could've just filmed an original sequence with the suit, even if it was short. By the way, apparently Zayto's' new form is known as the "Ghost Ranger." Anyway, I'm glad you got alot of enjoyment out of Dino Fury, as did alot of people from what I can gather. It certainly does do alot of neat things, but for me personally it just kinda fell short in terms of alot of things that I personally love about the franchise. But, especially for those who didn't care for the Neo-Saban Era, I can certainly see where the appeal might lie. Glad you had fun and I look forward to discussing Cosmic Fury with you! __________________ Watch Tekkouki Mikazuki With Me! \| Tokucasts w/ Friends!