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05-13-2021, 03:33 PM | #321 |
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If anyone's not sure here, just gonna lay out a few major reasons why the letter is fake:-
- 'Kamen Rider' and 'Super Sentai' go uncapitalised; for copyrighted items concerned in C&Ds like this they do have to be formatted with capitalisation - The address of the C&D is linked to a building Toei uses for meetings -- not one of their HQs, which would be much more standard for letters like these - Most damning of all though, C&Ds are sent by lawyers, not the companies themselves. If this was legitimate it would not be Toei up front sending this and threatening legal action, that needs to go through a lawyer; and any C&Ds you see from Toei in the past will be from a lawyer. I'm no legal expert, but once you see these flaws the letter looks more and more clearly illegitimate the more you look at it despite being scary at first. TV-Nihon has taken down (most of) their subs for now because even though it does look fake, the legal consequences are very serious so they're doing this just to be safe. I imagine things will be back to normal with all their torrents restored once this is all resolved. Either way, regardless of how much Shirakura nods and winks towards not caring about how we watch Toku in the west; it's generally not a good idea to tweet at officials about services you use for pirating media. This case is almost definitely fake, but it's a pretty good illustration and reminder of how bad things could get for real.
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05-13-2021, 04:04 PM | #322 |
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Stupid question: has Shirakura ever said anything officially about not caring, or is it just the vibe he gives off?
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05-13-2021, 04:10 PM | #323 |
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05-13-2021, 04:17 PM | #324 |
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He made a post on his twitter recently like "We're not supposed to know how you watch shows abroad lol", so like... at least among production crew, it's a pretty open secret. Which isn't surprising, it doesn't take much to figure it out.
But there's a difference between a subtle wink and a nod, and just directly asking "Hey why is our piracy site at this address down please fix?" Like, as easily as we forget it, and as annoying may be, fansubs are still a legally precarious grey area (or really a black area that isn't worth Toei's time) and only grows more so as people get the US distribution they've clamoured for. But the grand total is 4 series out of many, and playing silly games on twitter is only going to win silly prizes for the entire community.
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05-13-2021, 04:17 PM | #325 |
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I’m still going to suggest y’all start downloading the subs you want because with toei releasing official subs we may lose access to things that weren’t in the series proper and even shows that are currently not subbed officially.
I could be wrong, but I worry I guess.
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05-14-2021, 04:05 AM | #326 |
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Toei's YT channel at least seems to care marginally more about a range of markets whereas Shout Factory seems to intend to stay pretty much US-only, sorry, so there is that.
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05-14-2021, 06:08 PM | #327 |
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And what do you know, Over-Time's now come out and said they've talked with multiple other subbing groups and now believe it is real and will also be stopping posting their subs. (Although they're apparently going to actually quietly continue and just not advertise it on their blog.) Basically, no, it's not really a legal threat as has been thoroughly explained. But they do really believe now they're actually from Toei and basically saying "party's over, stop before it does become legal."
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05-14-2021, 06:30 PM | #328 |
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Man this sucks. I’m glad I went down the rabbit hole last week and pretty much downloaded all Heisei rider stuff. I have to wonder how this blows back on Team Rider and their push for more domestic releases. I can’t imagine a lot of people buying the last bit of Saber merch without having a way, legit or not, to watch the show.
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05-14-2021, 06:40 PM | #329 |
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Sure am glad Shout has stopped their sentai releases, TokuTV's releases are trash, and Crunchyroll has given up on simulcasting toku.
Supporting the official release has never been easier /s
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05-14-2021, 07:05 PM | #330 |
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Got a real goddamn headache right now. Absolutely stupid decision of Toei on all counts.
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