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05-04-2020, 04:55 AM | #11 |
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There are only two things I demand when a final form appears.
The enemies get stronger to match it (I’m less fond of shows where it isn’t that clear the new threats are stronger.), or inversely, the form is introduced to deal with stronger enemies. An “all your powers in one” gimmick. |
05-04-2020, 05:25 AM | #12 |
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Seeing all the responses, it makes me realize that Grand Zi-O is an ideal final form....... too bad it was executed badly it makes it seem useless and weak.
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05-07-2020, 10:40 PM | #13 |
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A special weapon to make it stand out.
I don't mind a hero using a previous form's weapon (Full Bottle Buster, Gashacon Keyslasher, Saikyo Girade). But I feel like a form that's the strongest in the show should get some special weapon that helps it become even stronger; even if it's used mainly for the finisher (i.e. Cosmic States' rocket sword). I really miss final form weapons. Cool design. I'm easy to appease in this case. EDIT: To clarify, I don't care if they're sleek or bulky, flashy or subtle. It really depends on the show's aesthetic and the form(s) that came before it. For example, Maximum Mighty X is bulky, whereas Muteki is sleek; Double Xtreme and Drive Type Tridoron play on their main themes (what if Double became triple; Drive's used a bunch of cars, but not Tridoron). For Zero-One himself, I'm expecting something gold. Hoping for a special weapon, but if he uses MCH's combined blade, that's fine too. Cool powers that it uses often-ish. Wish Fourze Cosmic States used its switch-mixing gimmick more, but at least it did it more than Build Genius. Mugen has, like, seven finishers, which is super-cool. Muteki cannot detransform unwillingly (i.e. rider gets punched hard and the suit disappears; not the case with Muteki). Genius can use/combine bottle abilities, though it ditches that (only using Diamond twice) for abusing the heck out of its flash-stepping power. A cool henshin gimmick. Putting a device in and everything is cool, but I like things like Hyper Muteki or Meteor Storm because of their extras (docking to cover center screen, and BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP, respectively). EDIT: To include one of my own ideas, this is the final form for an OC of mine. The suit itself is a lot more elaborate than his previous forms, including tons of speakers and wavy tech lines. And the helmet looks like that sound wave representation (bouncing, synchronized, colored bars) I find associated with music. The henshin device is a giant egg that slots another egg inside; seeing as how his gimmick is egg timers (long story), I saw it fitting. |
05-08-2020, 11:23 AM | #14 |
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Swagger, flare, and raw power
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05-09-2020, 09:08 AM | #15 |
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I mainly enjoy it when the final form ties up a character's arc.
For example: Build Genius representing the culmination of everything Sento had learned along the way, and him fully accepting that science isn't "good" or "bad", and that all he can do is use his own power for his ideals. Or at least that's how it came across to me. |
05-09-2020, 10:26 AM | #16 |
Dai Shogun
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A power that is unique yet based on or upgraded from the special trait of its Rider. Like Kabuto's Hyper Clock Up.
I also enjoyed the whole "combined power of every previous form"-thing until it became too overused of a concept. Quote:
I mainly enjoy it when the final form ties up a character's arc.
For example: Build Genius representing the culmination of everything Sento had learned along the way, and him fully accepting that science isn't "good" or "bad", and that all he can do is use his own power for his ideals. Or at least that's how it came across to me. |
05-09-2020, 11:21 AM | #17 |
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A spectacular finisher that is much more cooler and deadlier looking than the previous form ones. Like (picking semi-Final Form for this one) Ghost's Mega Omega Formation compared to its previous forms.
A consequence to make them balanced too, but lives up to the power. While they're the strongest the Rider can use, I want the previous forms not to be obsolete, and this also adds something for stakes to use the final form properly against a proper threat and to maintain it to keep an upper hand against the strong enemy. For them not to struggle or be humiliated by the villain's grunts, or even the regular MOTW. Kuuga Ultimate being placed in the final makes it an example of this. |
05-10-2020, 11:40 AM | #18 |
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His base form is more of a simple spandex costume with neon lights, while his other forms add on armor or patterns. |
05-10-2020, 03:03 PM | #19 |
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As for other aspects, I feel the biggest thing a final form needs is a drawback. A reason to not use it. Kiva Emperor is infamous for being the most used final form in the franchise, and the real world reasons aside, in canon, there was no reason to not use it over his base form, as it was just a straight upgrade. The same can be applied to Hyper Muteki in Ex-Aid.
What helps keep things interesting is high stakes. And when the hero gets access to a powerful new ability that has no drawbacks, the normal form becomes obsolete. The drawback doesn't always need to be life threatening, mind you. There's nothing wrong with having a drawback that could be overcome later on. Like Eiji managing to control PuToTyra by not letting pure instinct take the wheel. Just using the final form doesn't have to be a life or death situation, but just place some reason to not just use it forever.
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05-10-2020, 04:00 PM | #20 |
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It resembles the Rider’s main theme/image but evolved.
A new weapon that either compliments his new form or works in tandem with his original weapon. Awesome theme, doesn’t hurt if the actor sings it himself. Actually remains powerful for more than two episodes.
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