[Switchblade]

My stance on Wizard is that it's fine. I love Haruto - one of my favorite main Riders from the era. I like Mayu and the part where she didn't die. I think the plot had some really good ideas and Fueki's plan made for an interesting final act. I also think a lot of it misfired. Losing Koyomi's actress from full-time duty badly affected the main plot, Shunpei's antics hurt the overall tone, and the show really suffered from the Den-O structure officially getting overplayed. I liked what it was trying to do, but a lot of it fell flat for me.

Ghost (surprise, I have negative things to say about Ghost!) was much more intrinsically flawed. The show's pacing was a disaster (burned through the 99 days in 10 episodes and then had to hit the first reset button) and the plot really fell apart by the end (seriously, what the hell was the point of bringing in the twins from the net videos, especially when they didn't do anything?). Ignoring even it worst and most obnoxious element (Onari), the show had far bigger problems than just feeling repetitive and underwhelming.

[FreshToku]

I am immune to 'having problems with Wizard's pacing' because I binged all 50+ episodes, the three movies, HBV and all net movies within the course of two and a half days. I was going through some stuff at the time, okay?

When I close my eyes, I can still hear Hi Hi HiHiHi.

[EpsilonX]

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

but I remember a ton of people telling me "Oh man, Zyuranger is so much better than MMPR! Once you see Sentai you'll throw PR in the trash!"

And uh... needless to say that didn't happen. I don't hate Zyuranger by any means, but I remember reaching the end and going "Really? That's what all the hype is about?"

Interesting, I had the exact opposite experience. I watched Zyuranger and thought it was so much better, but everybody I knew was like "why can't you just watch the English version like a normal person?"

[DreamSword]

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Interesting, I had the exact opposite experience. I watched Zyuranger and thought it was so much better, but everybody I knew was like "why can't you just watch the English version like a normal person?"

That is interesting! Nearly every circle I've been in, especially as time has gone, you're outright shunned if you like PR, yet the same people feel the need to still keep up with news and critique PR? It always confused me.

This board is alot more chill about such things, thankfully.

[Androzani84]

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

That is interesting! Nearly every circle I've been in, especially as time has gone, you're outright shunned if you like PR, yet the same people feel the need to still keep up with news and critique PR? It always confused me.

This board is alot more chill about such things, thankfully.

As one guy I follow on Twitter pointed out, “People like to sh*t on Zyuranger in the US fandom.” It’s part of the reason I followed him.

[Matrixbeast]

I could never get into Zyuranger, to be honest. I don't know what it is, but it just lacks something that keeps me from finishing it.
I know MMPR has the nostalgia and cheese factor that makes me enjoy it, but I just can't pin down why I can't get into Zyu.

[Powerman293]

I appreciate that the past 2 Generations films (Reiwa 1st and Heisei Gen Forever) are trying to not just be disposable toku crossovers but attempt to be actual movies. I know I shouldn't expect a toku movie to be some avant garde masterpiece or anything, but it'd be nice for them to do something interesting outside of the always great stunts.

Forever looks the part with its cinematography and color grading and Reiwa almost has the plot down. Now if the next one could combine both aspects.

[gashatfreak]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I could never get into Zyuranger, to be honest. I don't know what it is, but it just lacks something that keeps me from finishing it.
I know MMPR has the nostalgia and cheese factor that makes me enjoy it, but I just can't pin down why I can't get into Zyu.

For me, I was never able to finish Zyuranger because of repetitive plot in almost every episode. I mean, yeah there's the subplot with the Green Ranger and everything but most of the epsiodes are simple forumlaic. I mean, yeah that's Super Sentai in a nutshell but I feel like it was a bit more pronounced in Zyuranger.

[FairyKing]

Okay I know I've complained about Gaim before, but I think I finally pinned down exactly why I dislike it. It's because the characters are so locked into certain roles that they make decisions that don't actually make any sense, just because it's what their role requires. Kouta was always the tragic, self-sacrificing hero even when there was no need for that, so instead of a noble martyr he came off as an idiot with a death wish. Kaito was always the power-hungry rival, so instead of keeping his philosophy and motivation consistent, he just spouted some nonsense about strength and picked fights he had nothing to gain from. Micchy was always the traitor, so he betrayed people whenever the plot required him to, not when it actually made sense for him to do so (but at least for him, the story acknowledged that his betrayals ultimately were his undoing).

It was still an enjoyable enough story, I just feel like sometimes it was trying too hard.

[gashatfreak]

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Originally Posted by FairyKing

Okay I know I've complained about Gaim before, but I think I finally pinned down exactly why I dislike it. It's because the characters are so locked into certain roles that they make decisions that don't actually make any sense, just because it's what their role requires. Kouta was always the tragic, self-sacrificing hero even when there was no need for that, so instead of a noble martyr he came off as an idiot with a death wish. Kaito was always the power-hungry rival, so instead of keeping his philosophy and motivation consistent, he just spouted some nonsense about strength and picked fights he had nothing to gain from. Micchy was always the traitor, so he betrayed people whenever the plot required him to, not when it actually made sense for him to do so (but at least for him, the story acknowledged that his betrayals ultimately were his undoing).

It was still an enjoyable enough story, I just feel like sometimes it was trying too hard.

As Gaim was the first Kamen Rider series I watched, I have a bit of a bias towards it but what you just said reminded me of the scene where Micchy was taken by Takatora to see the ruins in Helheim Forest and Micchy freaks out saying that the media must never see this.

Now, yes while it was a huge story development, there was no reason for Micchy to act all that freaked out. It was just there for shock value to bait the audience into wondering what it was he saw.