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03-20-2017, 02:12 PM | #21 |
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The dilema here is if it is it really earnest representation if they're only doing it to drive up ticket sales? And like I said, I don't think the movie itself is doing this, because before now nobody even knew because it was never mentioned or promoted, nor is it being treated like a big twist. But thanks to the likes of Ghostbusters, a lot of people are conditioned to assume the most cynical of motives for things like this. After all, this isn't a heartfelt passion project indie movie, it's a generic, souless, corperate machine designed to hock toys. And the thing is, nobody here has stated they're against her sexuality, rather than they're against it's use as a gimmick. Quote:
And if you are offended by the inclusion of gay characters in a franchise you admire then perhaps you should reflect on your feelings towards gay people.
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03-20-2017, 02:29 PM | #22 |
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If this is directed towards me, that's not at all what I was saying. Like I said, the representation is fine, I'm quite alright with Trini or anyone being gay, it's the gimmick-ifying way people think they're using it.
The dilema here is if it is it really earnest representation if they're only doing it to drive up ticket sales? And like I said, I don't think the movie itself is doing this, because before now nobody even knew because it was never mentioned or promoted, nor is it being treated like a big twist. But thanks to the likes of Ghostbusters, a lot of people are conditioned to assume the most cynical of motives for things like this. After all, this isn't a heartfelt passion project indie movie, it's a generic, souless, corperate machine designed to hock toys. And the thing is, nobody here has stated they're against her sexuality, rather than they're against it's use as a gimmick. Nobody here has stated that. I certainly didn't, and if I came across that way I apologise, but I mean my best friend was gay and he was the nicest, most considerate person I ever knew. |
03-20-2017, 02:51 PM | #23 |
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Personally, I'm down for it. I wasn't going to go out of my way to see the movie before and I'm not going to now, but I've got no complaints about Trini or any of the other characters being LGBT. |
03-20-2017, 02:54 PM | #24 |
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But I too don't like it when studios use sexuality as a gimmick to get people into the seats. That said I don't think that's what they're trying to do. I do think that these kinds of announcements are made to get more people hyped for the movie, but the intention of having a gay character wasn't for that reason, but for actual character development.
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03-20-2017, 03:35 PM | #25 |
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All I'll say is your posts came off a little bit odd and incoherent towards the point you were trying to make. But I too don't like it when studios use sexuality as a gimmick to get people into the seats. That said I don't think that's what they're trying to do. I do think that these kinds of announcements are made to get more people hyped for the movie, but the intention of having a gay character wasn't for that reason, but for actual character development.
And honestly, I don't really mind gay Trini. Certainly gives more to her character than the original '93 Trini had, which I'm pretty sure was just "the other girl Ranger." Would've preferred gay Billy just because I think Mr. Yost might appreciate it on a personal level (hell, I saw the title of this thread and immediately thought it was going to be Billy). |
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03-20-2017, 06:53 PM | #26 |
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B: Makes said character more relatable.
Just look at Supergirl. Turning Alex into a lesbian was hands down the worst thing they could do for the show not only because it completely altered her character from the first season and that it started to take up half of the run time of an episode, but also the actress is completely uncomfortable whenever she has to talk about how much she loves Maggie. What reviews are you seeing? Quote:
A mega-budget reboot that's embarrassed of the TV show it's bringing to the big screen.
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The characters in "Power Rangers" have all the depth and idiosyncrasy of walking talking robo-teen action figures.
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It's jarring at times how often it goes back and forth between 'gritty' and 'silly.'
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A teen group therapy session disguised as a superhero movie, "Power Rangers" is numbingly predictable and cynically made, recycling myriad blockbuster tropes but draining their adolescent pleasures in the process.
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Overall the film will be a big hit with the ten and under crowd. The thirty minutes of training montages and robotics are just exciting enough to detract from the weak storyline.
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03-20-2017, 07:42 PM | #27 |
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But this is doing nothing but exploiting them. I don't hear articles talking about how straight Jason and Kimberly are.
If the movie is well written, they don't need to pull this stunt to make a character relatable. Saying someone is a gay character does not instantly make them a good character. Just look at Supergirl. Turning Alex into a lesbian was hands down the worst thing they could do for the show not only because it completely altered her character from the first season and that it started to take up half of the run time of an episode, but also the actress is completely uncomfortable whenever she has to talk about how much she loves Maggie. What reviews are you seeing? |
03-20-2017, 07:59 PM | #28 |
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But this is doing nothing but exploiting them. I don't hear articles talking about how straight Jason and Kimberly are.
If the movie is well written, they don't need to pull this stunt to make a character relatable. Saying someone is a gay character does not instantly make them a good character. A word of advice: educate yourself on LGBT rights and representation. Look up the extraordinarily high rates of suicide, depression, anxiety, and other mental illnesses compared to non-LGBT groups, and then look up how media representation effects those numbers. From my own personal experience, I was a depressed, suicidal, teenaged wreck until I discovered Wildstorm Comics' Apollo and Midnighter. Seeing these characters represented as competent, gay badasses in my favorite medium literally saved my life. They gave me the courage to keep on going. I cannot overstate how wrong you are right now, and how dangerous your mindset is. This is literally just the tip of the iceberg, but here are a few starting points: This article is about gay representation in comics. This is a good primer on queer representation in general. As is this. And this is an article from 2016 about how queer representation in media has actually decreased. If you're unwilling to educate yourself, drop out of this conversation now before you offend a ton of people (which actually, you've already done). I'll close with a quote from one of the above articles: "We LGBT people are not broken. We are not unworthy. We too can be superheroes, we too can be blessed and uplifted. We too are deserving of respect." Respect is something an awful lot of people are very eager to deny us. Last edited by Kamen Rider Lucha; 03-20-2017 at 08:39 PM.. |
03-20-2017, 08:25 PM | #29 |
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Was expecting Billy given the history.
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03-20-2017, 08:33 PM | #30 |
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Kain, you have this tendency to think that if an issue doesn't effect you, or if you don't care about it, then it doesn't matter to anyone. That is a problem.
A word of advice: educate yourself on LGBT rights and representation. Look up the extraordinarily high rates of suicide, depression, anxiety, and other mental illnesses compared to non-LGBT groups, and then look up how media representation effects those numbers. From my own personal experience, I was a depressed, suicidal, teenaged wreck until I discovered Wildstorm Comics' Apollo and Midnighter. Seeing these characters represented as competent badasses in my favorite medium, comics, literally saved my life. I cannot overstate how wrong you are right now, and how dangerous your mindset is. If you're unwilling to educate yourself, drop out of this conversation now before you offend a ton of people (which actually, you've already done). EDIT: This is literally just the tip of the iceberg, but here are a few starting points: This article is about gay representation in comics. This is a good primer on queer representation in general. As is this. And this is an article from 2016 about how queer representation in media has actually decreased. I'll close with a quote from one of the above articles: "We LGBT people are not broken. We are not unworthy. We too can be superheroes, we too can be blessed and uplifted. We too are deserving of respect." It seems like this is something a lot of people are very eager to deny us. And this.
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