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09-13-2021, 10:12 PM | #251 |
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09-14-2021, 03:29 PM | #252 |
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This movie is basically nostalgic for me at this point, and I feel like I get a tiny bit more fond of it every time I go back to it. While those episodes of Decade got the ball rolling by getting me to watch this on a whim (I think I was aware Decade was a glorified cameo), this is kinda the thing that truly pointed me in Den-O's direction. Which is weird! Because, like, if you asked me right after I watched it the first time, it's not like I was blown away by its staggering quality or anything. It was just some quaint but amusing Den-O adventure, but it's honestly pretty good at being that? The story is basic but cohesive, and it feels sort of unique among the Den-O movies in that it seems to consciously present it all in a way that's very friendly to people who are new to Den-O. Yuu makes a great audience surrogate character, and through him, I learned to love Deneb and the rest pretty quickly. Heck, to this day, I'm weirdly fond of New Den-O in huge part thanks to this being my introduction to him, rather than Final Countdown, where he's not very easy to like. I honestly sort of feel like being someone who hasn't watched Den-O is maybe the ideal way to go into this film, because it makes it much more of a novel thing than if you've already seen dozens of adventures with these guys. It's not aiming very high, I'll admit, but I don't know, there's a lot about this movie that rubs me the right way. Again, it didn't even impress me a ton of first viewing or anything, but it's been sitting with me surprisingly well in the long-term. Oh, and the abundance of Ryuki monsters is apparently due to that particular monster of the week having a bunch of suits made to act as cannon-fodder grunts in Dragon Knight. Just one more way that show subtly influenced the franchise. This is also the second instance of the actor playing a main villain in Den-O going on to have a major role in Ultraman Orb, and I gotta say, it's weird that happened more than once.
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09-14-2021, 03:44 PM | #253 |
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So yeah, unless there are any other Den-O villains that showed up in Orb... I suppose that one Doofenshmirtz meme is applicable. "If I had a nickel for every time a main villain actor from Den-O ended up having a major role in Ultraman Orb I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice." |
09-14-2021, 04:24 PM | #254 |
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It was pretty surprising to find out, but considering how bad I am at catching onto these things (Ankh was in this show!), it might be more surprising that I even picked up on the hint.
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09-14-2021, 08:39 PM | #255 |
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I actually really liked this movie. Easily the best part of Decade.
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09-14-2021, 08:49 PM | #256 |
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The thing Decade has been in the least so far? What a surprise.
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09-14-2021, 09:26 PM | #257 |
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I honestly enjoyed this movie. Probably more than I should have the first time I saw this. It was one of the first Rider Movies I saw aside from the 2016 Ichigo movie (Which I also liked), not counting The First and The Next (I won't talk about them here to avoid getting off topic).
From what I'm gathering here, it fails as a Den-O continuation, which honestly, I can see, especially since some Rider movies are just an excuse to bring them back, make some money, and some brand new toys. Which might have helped me enjoy it, despite not having seen Den-O. I know they certainly showed me I already love the cast. Especially that Train Hoax scene. Yeah, there are parts of the story I'm not a fan of, like the time-travel nonsense (At least as far as Yuuto was concerned), I don't know, those "I met you in the past, to give you this (insert something here), so you can give it back to me in the future, so I can give it to you in the past, or else, everything get's thrown off" plots are some of the time-travel tropes I'm not particularly in to. And of course, Decade has almost no point being here. Not like I have anything against him, but they really shouldn't have advertised it as a Decade movie, at all. Still, I enjoyed it for it's goofiness, creativity, and visual flare (I thought the warship coolest darn thing), but I'm sure when I watch Den-O and maybe re-watch it, I might be a little more negative. But even then, I don't I can bring myself to dislike this movie. |
09-14-2021, 10:05 PM | #258 |
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Yeah, there are parts of the story I'm not a fan of, like the time-travel nonsense (At least as far as Yuuto was concerned), I don't know, those "I met you in the past, to give you this (insert something here), so you can give it back to me in the future, so I can give it to you in the past, or else, everything get's thrown off" plots are some of the time-travel tropes I'm not particularly in to.
The thing is, this sort of convoluted secret origin is 1000% the way Den-O tells a story; all the time, every time. Complaining about Yuuto's new-and-improved-? backstory would be like complaining about how the Imagin can even drink Naomi's coffee. There's a certain amount of conceptual buy-in that you need to do to watch Den-O, and Everyone Has A Convoluted Backstory is one of them. Thankfully, this movie keeps it mostly to the background, where it's a nice little capper that Yuu is really Yuuto Sakurai. You could cut that part out and, while it would keep the movie from its more heartwarming scenes, it wouldn't really tank the story. So, yeah, I am completely okay with this new wrinkle to Yuuto and Deneb's friendship.
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09-15-2021, 01:04 PM | #259 |
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The thing is, this sort of convoluted secret origin is 1000% the way Den-O tells a story; all the time, every time. Complaining about Yuuto's new-and-improved-? backstory would be like complaining about how the Imagin can even drink Naomi's coffee. There's a certain amount of conceptual buy-in that you need to do to watch Den-O, and Everyone Has A Convoluted Backstory is one of them. Thankfully, this movie keeps it mostly to the background, where it's a nice little capper that Yuu is really Yuuto Sakurai. You could cut that part out and, while it would keep the movie from its more heartwarming scenes, it wouldn't really tank the story.
So, yeah, I am completely okay with this new wrinkle to Yuuto and Deneb's friendship. |
09-15-2021, 02:49 PM | #260 |
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Hey I'm just gonna peak in quick. This is movie is one of the very first kamen rider things I saw, way back when Kamen Rider/Super Sentai stuff was still being uploaded to youtube in like 3 parts (This was when youtube still let you change your background and stuff). I think I had no idea what was going on tbh. Like I barely remember anything about it, did not know that the main character kid was yuuto, or even who yuuto was. I had no context from either show too. I can't remember why I chose to watch it tbh. I do know it made me love the new Den-o design though.
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