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03-29-2020, 10:46 PM | #211 |
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Asakura is an incredible character. Absolutely despicable heartless person but an extremely entertaining villain. The relation between him and Kitaoka is one of the best parts of the series.
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03-29-2020, 10:52 PM | #212 |
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And it's fun, you know, to have a Pure Villain on a show that's a lot more subjective. Nothing about Asakura is defensible! His only defense in a criminal trial was that the victim pissed him off. (I don't know if the show has established what he's in for? Assault, I've got to assume, because I'm not sure even Kitaoka could get a murder charge with that defense knocked down to ten years.) It's good to have some unambiguous evil, to have someone even the villains are like, Yikes.
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03-30-2020, 12:41 AM | #213 |
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Yep, that was him. His actor is one of those guys who loved his time on the show and will come back any time he's given the chance.
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03-30-2020, 12:56 AM | #214 |
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That's definitely part of what makes Asakura so great. You can totally tell his actor loved playing the character.
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03-30-2020, 01:18 AM | #215 |
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Yeah, that's not one of my favorite narrative choices, where one person's kept outside the loop. I don't know why someone couldn't tell Reiko, other than a) it drags out the plot if she doesn't know yet, and b) typical White Knight bullshit where the men bravely protect the impossibly fragile mind of a woman.
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Just a joke. I thought Yui's tactic of acting pathetic around that dude was... an interesting choice? She kind-of had no move other than just going I Need Help Real Bad I Don't Know What I'm Doing until this guy gave her a stack of paperwork and begged her to lose his number. It's... I don't think Yui should be real proud of herself on this one.
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that you considered it cheap drama. Poorly worded sentence!
And, I wouldn't say conflicts are the only good moment, but they're definitely the most memorable. It's drama, you know? Conflicts are more entertaining storytelling than everyone getting along. Quote:
There’s an... immediacy, I guess, that I really liked about this episode. It’s paced real well. There’s an emphasis on a core cast and a single plot, and pretty much anyone who doesn’t help further that one plot gets a token scene. Ren’s still hiding from himself in the park, Yui’s (eternally?) questioning what Shiro’s up to, and Tezuka works at the tea shop now. (To that last one, shit, why not. Auntie will put an apron on any handsome boy who wanders in, and Tezuka is there all the time anyway. It’s random, but nearly everything about how the tea shop is run is random.)
Also finally Tezuka & Auntie interacts; "my prediction is always right" vs "my intiution is never wrong". Sadly Tezuka got owned this time....due to Shinji. Quote:
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We’ve been getting a steady escalation of villainous Riders since Scissors, since Shinji saw a Rider die. Kitaoka is an asshole, and would love to see other Riders get bumped off, but he’s not super into trying to do it with his own two hands. Shibaura, he’ll definitely try to get a Rider killed, but he’s okay (and maybe a little happier) maneuvering Riders into killing each other.
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No Rider is not about killing monsters except Shinji and Tezuka tbh, but killing monster is necessary to feed their contract monster (and an easy show of Final Vent without immediately killing another Rider). He almost killed Ren in ep. 17. Shibaura is lowkey as irreedeemable as Asakura, but he's not a violent type of person, he only sees human lives as a stress toy for him to play. But how he runs the war is a reminiscent of video games (and the death games he created) being a gamer, to watch and participate in Battle Royale like playing irl Fortnite or something. Just as a note obviously Ryuki came much earlier and it's inspired by Highlander. Last edited by DreadBringer; 03-30-2020 at 01:49 AM.. |
03-30-2020, 10:18 AM | #216 |
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Not only one person, but pretty much everyone else btw (dunno if a joke but drop the "white knight bs" there as I'm talking about everyone). Though I already explained, outright telling anyone Rider/Mirror stuff is not an easy task to do. No one will believe that (a cliche for unknown fantasy elements in a seemingly normal world), Yui's someone who gets labelled as a freak for telling people about the Mirror stuffs, other Riders likely wouldn't care, dunno for Shinji, Reiko has a freak experience with Shimada.
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Sure, probably yeah conflicts are more entertaining but for Ryuki case, getting along (and no it's obviously not everyone, I also don't want everyone to just strictly get along but here's only Shinji and Tezuka among Riders, not every Riders) is such a rarity I want that to be remembered. I also made a cover about interesting parts (to me) for Tezuka and Shinji's monster fight there before.
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I mean that's already the policy of living in Atori established before to Shinji back then, you can live without paying, but you have to help out at the cafe's working time (Shinji's in evening). Tezuka as in the discussion before moves in there, so he "pays" by helping out there just like Shinji and Ren, especially that Shinji's at work and Ren and Yui are MIA. I'd like to see how Tezuka interacts with the customers there but we didn't get that.
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No Rider is not about killing monsters except Shinji and Tezuka tbh, but killing monster is necessary to feed their contract monster (and an easy show of Final Vent without immediately killing another Rider). He almost killed Ren in ep. 17. Shibaura is lowkey as irreedeemable as Asakura, but he's not a violent type of person, he only sees human lives as a stress toy for him to play. But how he runs the war is a reminiscent of video games (and the death games he created) being a gamer, to watch and participate in Battle Royale like playing irl Fortnite or something. Just as a note obviously Ryuki came much earlier and it's inspired by Highlander.
I can see the Highlander influence, sure, but Ryuki came out just a few years after Battle Royale, which probably added to the DNA of this show. And since Fortnite was just ripping off PUBG which was ripping off Battle Royale...
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03-30-2020, 10:57 AM | #217 |
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I remember back in the days it was kind of a big deal when Asakura debuted. Not because we finally got a full-fledged maniacal kamen rider who is crazy, but the fact that an actor who played a playboy detective/goofball that can transform into a sparkly crystal-armored superhero in the obscure standalone Toei toku hero show Changerion came back to Toei studios at least 5~6 years later to play a full-fledged maniacal kamen rider who is crazy. Fun fact, one of his co-stars in Changerion is Atsushi Ogawa, aka the man who claims to be Tetsuya Sawaki in Agito, and Inoue was the main script writer for Changerion.
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03-30-2020, 11:05 AM | #218 |
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I remember back in the days it was kind of a big deal when Asakura debuted. Not because we finally got a full-fledged maniacal kamen rider who is crazy, but the fact that an actor who played a playboy detective/goofball that can transform into a sparkly crystal-armored superhero in the obscure standalone Toei toku hero show Changerion came back to Toei studios at least 5~6 years later to play a full-fledged maniacal kamen rider who is crazy. Fun fact, one of his co-stars in Changerion is Atsushi Ogawa, aka the man who claims to be Tetsuya Sawaki in Agito, and Inoue wrote the script for Changerion.
I feel like I'm going to get a version of that when I watch Blade, and the first few times I see Garren it'll be impossible to take him seriously. He's the conniving principal from Fourze, not some hero! (I don't know anything about Garren, so maybe he's also a conniving principal? If so, please ignore this paragraph.)
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03-30-2020, 11:09 AM | #219 |
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Neat! It's fun, the way some folks filter in and out of toku shows. (I'm pretty sure Kanon from Ghost is the new Pink Ranger?) I can't imagine what it would be like to have a comedy actor suddenly go all in as a terrifying villain, though. I wonder if that would blunt its impact? That disconnect, of looking at his face and thinking Comedy while he's holding a little girl hostage... weird.
I feel like I'm going to get a version of that when I watch Blade, and the first few times I see Garren it'll be impossible to take him seriously. He's the conniving principal from Fourze, not some hero! (I don't know anything about Garren, so maybe he's also a conniving principal? If so, please ignore this paragraph.)
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03-30-2020, 11:11 AM | #220 |
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The actor Kousei Amano(then Hironari Amano) who played that same principal in Fourze and Garren in Blade was also famous for playing Tuxedo Mask for a while in Sailor Moon musicals, which was a role also previously taken by Mr. Tyrannoranger himself Yuuta Mochizuki from Zyuranger and Kenji Urai aka N Daguva Zeba from Kuuga. Crazy, I know.
... ...they really only have about ten actors for all of these toku shows, don't they.
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