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05-04-2020, 06:23 PM | #161 |
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Allow me to make a totally underwhelming and anti-climactic response post to all of that by simply saying, yeah, the first time I saw that explosion from Rising Mighty? "HOLY SHIT!!!" at the top of my lungs.
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05-04-2020, 06:25 PM | #162 |
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I knew I'd forgotten something, because YEAH, WOW, OH MY GOD
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05-04-2020, 10:10 PM | #163 |
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I actually really like the design of Rising Mighty because it almost feels more 'complete' than regular Mighty, with the extra gold lines and the guard over his leg. It's too bad (but necessary, I suppose!) that he doesn't really fight in it, only finish things off!
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05-04-2020, 10:58 PM | #164 |
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(Look, in a Fish Sandwich Rewatches thread, you can't exactly have Fish Sandwich coming in to play the contrarian. I'm happy to cosplay as that character, at least this once.) The enormous body count in this series frequently gets brought up by Kuuga detractors as being so depressingly high that it loops around to being unrelatable. Ten people dead is a tragedy, ten thousand dead is a statistic, you know? There's a point where the scale increases and your brain just doesn't have a space for it. The visual of Kuuga accidentally detonating a... I don't know, a district, it's just too much for me. It takes it from the realm of the personal, the specific, Kuuga on his own versus a monster, and turns it into special effects, makes it feel gratuitous. I get that there's supposed to be a danger to Rising Mighty, to the Grongi, and that all of this should start to feel cataclysmic. It's just, for me, that escalation started to make it less heroic. It's not a hero fighting to save humanity at the cost of his own, it's whichever monster can blow up the most stuff. Like, I get it, your mileage may vary. There's a more gritty, endangered feel to Kuuga than another show. Things being this dangerous, I guess that works for a lot people. It's just, the introduction of Rising Mighty makes Kuuga feel less like a proector and more like a natural disaster, and I'm just not as into that.
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05-05-2020, 05:35 AM | #165 |
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I was going to argue this point right here and now, but considering we're only at the cliffhanger where it happens, I think I'd rather wait at least a few episodes to discuss this in detail. For now, I'll just tell you, I don't think "Kuuga" and "gratuitous" are two words that go together. It's a very thoughtful and deliberate show, and all of this stuff is no exception. The thoughts you have about that explosion are all things it actively wants you to be considering.
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05-05-2020, 09:36 AM | #166 |
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I was going to argue this point right here and now, but considering we're only at the cliffhanger where it happens, I think I'd rather wait at least a few episodes to discuss this in detail. For now, I'll just tell you, I don't think "Kuuga" and "gratuitous" are two words that go together. It's a very thoughtful and deliberate show, and all of this stuff is no exception. The thoughts you have about that explosion are all things it actively wants you to be considering.
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05-05-2020, 01:52 PM | #167 |
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Chouno's been brought into the hospital himself, waking up to realize, to his horror, that he missed his window. Instead of having him go straight to throwing a fit, he immediately tries to get on the phone with the company running the contest to see if he can still sort this out, but he gets hung up on before he can even try the old "a horrifying monster was blocking traffic" excuse. It's another great moment to build some more sympathy for Chouno, showing him still trying even once things have already gone wrong, but he still has his limits, and this breaks him a little. Yuusuke has already run off to go deal with Gamego, meaning this time it's entirely up to Tsubaki to try keeping him looking forward. He starts out friendlier than last time, sincerely happy to see Chouno making progress, having found out he's been getting his illness treated in the time since they last saw each other. It starts getting a little ugly when Chouno accuses Yuusuke of just smiling his way through life without any trouble, compared to how much he's been struggling. Again, Tsubaki's one of the few people who truly gets what Yuusuke is going through, so that remark gets under his skin a bit. Chouno insists that anyone would be as happy as Yuusuke if things always went as right for them as they do for him. Which, of course, shows how little Chouno is aware of what he's even talking about. Yuusuke's been battered, bruised, beaten, bitten, blown up, shot, thrown off of skyscrapers, poisoned, dead... you name an injury, and chances are he's had it at some point or another. Being #4 has been far from fun and games for Yuusuke. But his suffering goes beyond even that, and Chouno's about to learn why. His conversation with Tsubaki reaches its most tense point when he says he would've been better off letting Biran kill him back in episode 14, which makes Tsubaki lose what patience he has left, snapping at Chouno for his defeatist attitude. This causes Chouno to punch Tsubaki in the face. After this, Tsubaki has just one question. How did it feel?
And of course, it felt bad. Chouno doesn't feel any happier having hit Tsubaki. He doesn't feel relief, or satisfaction. He lost control, and he lashed out, and the look on his face makes his regret clear. All of that is just from one punch. Yuusuke, though, this is what he deals with almost every day. It doesn't always show on the surface, but it's there, no matter how justified using violence to stop the Grongi is. He hates it, and Tsubaki knows this. He knows that Yuusuke really is scared of what he might become because of the Amadam, and he knows the reason he doesn't complain about it, even the tiniest bit, is because he puts other people's smiles first, no matter what. How much of an impact hearing all this has on Chouno is left up in the air for now, as Tsubaki leaves him with one other piece of information about Yuusuke to chew on. He really liked Chouno's drawing. Quote:
In his fight with Gamego, Kuuga is doing better than last time, especially thanks to help from Ichijou, who uses that new ammunation to disarm the Grongi. He succumbs to the recoil just like Enokida warned him about, but this action provides Kuuga the opportunity to load Gamego onto the TryGouram's horns, and take him off to a slightly more remote location. You see, this time, Yuusuke is planning to use the gold version of his red form, and he's got a very bad feeling about what all that extra power might do. As such, he's had Ichijou evacuate the nearby area in case it might result in people getting hurt. Very, very good thinking on Yuusuke's part, because Rising Mighty's Rider Kick turns out to have exactly the kind of effect he was afraid of.
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But that dream came true, and now, that post is so obsolete, I never even posted it. And that's awesome. While I've yet to watch a full episode, I've went and checked dozens and dozens of bad lines from MCS' translation to find, nearly every single time, they're fixed up perfectly. And as an even more pleasant surprise, the dialogue just plain reads great. Very natural and smooth without losing the meaning. Plus, the theme songs are translated to that same standard, so it's even better. There's basically no downside to this situation. Just like Shout's Sentai stuff, it's streaming for free on several different services, too, so it's just as cheap as piracy! The only thing to even consider being bummed about is that the Grongi language is rendered in English, but, as much I'm *firmly* on the side that believes it shouldn't be by default, there are legitimate arguments to be made in favor of handling it that way, and, I'm telling you, it's a total non-issue in the face of how good a job was done. Just think about the implications of complaining about it for a second. The biggest problem with the official Kuuga release is that they did too much work. Well, that, and being in a region where you still can't watch it officially, admittedly. Still! There has never, ever been a better time to watch Kuuga, whether you're new to the show or not, and if you doubt the people making this stuff happen have a real passion for what they're doing, just take a look at what clip TokuSHOUTsu's YouTube page chose to sell people on the show. You don't pick this one by accident!
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Often I don't like trying to do responses to every little bit of a post, because it really ends up resulting in me trying to find things to say when I either just don't or it was already said for me. Fun fact: that's been my experience in a LOT of this thread; a scene you're describing in a post reminds me of thoughts and emotions I had in response to it... and then you lay out those thoughts and emotions for me! It's kind of wild seeing other people have such similar experiences to me; there's something kind of nice about it?
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I've said far too many times how I'm not a fan of Inoue's writing, and especially on this show I think he wrote some of the weaker ones. And my feelings on his writing in general aside, I think there's a big reason for that -- his writing is very wild. It's goofy, it's over-the-top, it's larger than life and laugh out loud and in your face and wide-angle lenses. That doesn't stop drama and emotional moments from coming through - in fact, at his best, Inoue really knows how to make those work for each other - but it's really not a good fit for a series as minimalist and grounded as Kuuga. And he certainly seems to understand this, because he tries to reel in his normal tropes and style and nail what Kuuga's all about. But while there's times he comes close - there was a pretty damn good one last time - it's often just not the best outings Kuuga has.
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Am I that guy? I guess I'm going to be that guy. I don't really like the big explosions of Rising Mighty.
Like, I get it, your mileage may vary. There's a more gritty, endangered feel to Kuuga than another show. Things being this dangerous, I guess that works for a lot people. It's just, the introduction of Rising Mighty makes Kuuga feel less like a proector and more like a natural disaster, and I'm just not as into that. Last edited by DreadBringer; 05-05-2020 at 02:53 PM.. |
05-05-2020, 02:03 PM | #168 |
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I̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶p̶a̶r̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶m̶e̶?̶ Well, I just want to give a fair focus on most part of the series, instead of just focusing like on, like, the fighting part (and neglect other parts a tokusatsu series cover), or certain characters only.
Yeah, and quite clearly there's no other parent around. There's a reason Enokida relies on her mother to look after her son...
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05-05-2020, 05:45 PM | #169 |
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I was going to argue this point right here and now, but considering we're only at the cliffhanger where it happens, I think I'd rather wait at least a few episodes to discuss this in detail. For now, I'll just tell you, I don't think "Kuuga" and "gratuitous" are two words that go together. It's a very thoughtful and deliberate show, and all of this stuff is no exception. The thoughts you have about that explosion are all things it actively wants you to be considering.
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05-05-2020, 05:46 PM | #170 |
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Though this might not be all that well known on account of MCS' subs having her say instead that she tries to avoid work because it makes her tired (you know, the exact opposite of her personality?), which is another one of those errors that reminds how glad I am to have new subs of Kuuga!
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