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10-24-2021, 04:07 AM | #591 |
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Movie War is also necessary for W, too. I’d pin it as ome of the most likely movies in general for them to put on the service
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10-24-2021, 09:52 AM | #592 |
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In contrast with Die, I saw this way before I actually watched W. And from that perspective, it works really well since W's portion is more of a prequel and doesn't expect you to have watch it up to the point of the movie's release.
But we're here to talk about Decade, so let's talk Decade. I strangely love the opening with Decade taking out Skyrider? Something about him using his Final Attack Ride in the air, while Skyraider tries to outfly the cards appearing for Decade to smash through. It's oddly hilarious. Of course then we get to the first hurdle in the movie. So Decade has embraced that he's evil and that all of that development was for naught, and he's got a sidekick, Tackle (Wonder how she feels about Decade killing Stronger...), and also he gets a "new" form, Violent Emotion, which it's only real difference is his eyes, which I didn't know until people pointed that out after I watched the movie. I do like how this one had more references to the Neo-Showa Trilogy, but as Die and some other people feel, this probably should have stuck with a Heisei Celebration, not that I have a problem with the Showa content, but this isn't an "Anniversary," but a celebration for the 10th Heisei Rider season. Of course, the real problem with the Showa connection is that then we have some of the odd choices like Gramps becoming Dr. Shinigami, or Narutaki becoming General Zol seemingly out of nowhere. Kamen Rider Kivala debuts (or am I mistaking this for Vs. Dai-Shocker?) and she has a real neat suit. The white Kiva-esque suit is just such a good look. Kuuga Rising Ultimate is neat, but kind of loses the simplicity of the Kuuga Suits, though I like to separate AR Kuuga and Real Kuuga's forms and characters, so it doesn't bother me so much. Much like Vs. Dai-Shocker, W's inclusion feels hamstrung and unnecessary, as he only crosses over with Decade because they're both Kamen Riders just riding along. Nothing against W, because they're great, but this movie is almost like the Chou-Den-O movie in which Decade had no reason to be in, sure W feels a little more prevalent here, but I feel Decade should have stuck to his guns and made this a standalone. Overall, I didn't dislike this movie, but I don't think it was the best ending? I do like how Tsukasa accepts that he's nothing but a destroyer, but I do feel like there were better ways to portray this, especially given some of the developments from the show. It was nice how he just gets willed back into existence, which is almost fitting for Tokusatsu Heroes (in Hero Live Shows, the audience usually cheers the Hero on when they're in a pinch), but then there are the less impressive moments like Narutaki's big twist. While I like that he's a "Final Boss," since he spent most of the series heckling Decade, but after Vs. Dai-Shocker and the random execution here, it was more of a joke than anything else. Wow, I went on for a long time here, so I'm going to leave off by saying: Decade is a passing through Kamen Rider show, and we all pass through it eventually. Remember that. |
10-24-2021, 10:40 AM | #593 |
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I do wonder when they decided to move riders to autumn. Because my guess is that they planned Double as heisei rider no.10 first, but then someone from up top at Bandai said that they don't want rider competing against sentai directly anymore, so they had to put it in the backlog and come up with an entire new show to match the new schedule and business strategy. Maybe right after the 2nd Quarter sales for rider came up?
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10-24-2021, 01:49 PM | #594 |
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I'd assume Decade or something like it - there's no way they weren't doing an anniversary show - was meant to be a full show if they were planning that at the time. But more than likely it was probably planned from the start a little into Kiva
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10-24-2021, 06:10 PM | #595 |
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Hey so going off the analogy that Decade is about fandom, does that make Narutaki a gatekeeper type of fan? Only wanting people to engage with the media the way he does? I havent watched decade so this could be super wrong, but it feels like something. Also this might've been brought up before, but I didnt read the whole thread.
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10-24-2021, 06:52 PM | #596 |
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Hey so going off the analogy that Decade is about fandom, does that make Narutaki a gatekeeper type of fan? Only wanting people to engage with the media the way he does? I havent watched decade so this could be super wrong, but it feels like something. Also this might've been brought up before, but I didnt read the whole thread.
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10-24-2021, 07:48 PM | #597 |
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Hey so going off the analogy that Decade is about fandom, does that make Narutaki a gatekeeper type of fan? Only wanting people to engage with the media the way he does? I havent watched decade so this could be super wrong, but it feels like something. Also this might've been brought up before, but I didnt read the whole thread.
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10-24-2021, 07:59 PM | #598 |
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KAMEN RIDER DECADE - THREAD WRAP-UP
And that about does it for the TokuNation Watches Kamen Rider Decade thread! First of all, my heartfelt thanks to everyone who volunteered their time to chat with me over Discord about Kamen Rider Decade. In case you need a reminder of the folks I basically will donate marrow to if they need it: Switchblade AkibaSilver Zatyme Enchilada645 Sh Ranger dreamcastegirl MrWilliamGraham Androzani84 Fish Sandwich DreamSword catwhowalks These eleven people graciously donated not just their time and their perspectives, but their enthusiasm. I didn't know if anyone would care enough to help me get this project off the ground, but every single one of them made the concept of a celebration of Kamen Rider fandom feel not just obvious, but necessary. TokuNation has the best tokusatsu fans in the world, and this group proved it. Give them all a round of applause! Second of all! Thanks, as always, to anyone else who stopped by this thread to share their memories of Decade, or their thoughts on the series. These things are generally only fun to do when people choose to get involved, so thank you to everyone who posted. I probably can't promise you any marrow (Eleven people! It's spoken for!), but I'd be more than willing to post a link to your SoundCloud. For me, this project was a delight. I got to spend time chatting in depth with a lot of folks I'd normally just have passing conversations with, which was a very unexpected treat. Decade was a weird show, with more peaks and valleys than nearly any Kamen Rider show I've ever watched, but it was dependably fun to pick other fans' brains about the series. It was also... god, it was so much work. I can't begin to describe how exhausted I am. This was a joy to produce, but I am beyond out of gas. Between needing a bit of a breather, and the holidays coming up, the schedule for these next few Watch threads is going to get a little erratic. Next up are the three Cho Den-O films for the endless and eternal Den-O thread, which should drop sometime in early November. Can't say exactly when, because my schedule is going to be super nuts for the next two months. Turn on notifications for that thread, if you're interested in participating. After that, I really want to rewatch Legend Rider projects leading up to Zi-O. I haven't made a list yet of what all that'll entail, but it's probably going to be every Phase 2 winter movie I haven't already written up (W through Ghost, basically), as well as any project that includes previous actors in it (Go-Rider, etc). Probably going to be around two dozen individual things, and that thread'll start... I don't know. Maybe sometime in December? Probably not until January, though. We'll see! The next big series project is Zi-O, and that'll definitely land in early 2022. A few folks have wondered if the Zi-O thread is going to follow the same format as Decade, and the answer continues to be We'll See. I have no idea how many shows get a tribute story in Zi-O, but I'm assuming it's 19, plus Zi-O itself? If that's the case, I'd need twenty people willing to commit to the project. If we can get that, I'll put myself through this wringer one more time and feel grateful for the opportunity. If we get less than twenty? Then I go it alone on Zi-O. If you feel like making TokuNation Watches Kamen Rider Zi-O a reality, PM me sometime before the end of the year with the FIVE episode blocks/ancillary projects from Zi-O that you want to discuss. No spoilers in your requests, though! Don't say The Build Episodes, because I don't know which ones those are -slash- would prefer not to know which ones those are in advance. Just give me, like, "Episodes 34-35", or "Heisei Forever Movie". Ranked as well, please! Priority will be given to anyone who participated in the Decade discussion, and I ask that any returning co-hosts not pick a series they already talked about. Let's keep things fresh! I'll be adding a counter to my signature line for the next couple months, to let people know how close we are to 20. If you want this to happen, please consider throwing your name in! Beyond that, I'll be a little scarce for the next few weeks. Lots of stuff got away from me while Decade was happening, so I need to catch up on those areas. (Three Den-O Figure-Rise kits are on the way, so I definitely need to get to work on my model kit backlog.) Just a lot of work and personal things I need to nail down. This thread'll stay open, obviously, so feel free to continue to bash/praise Kamen Rider Decade to your heart's content. I can't quickly put together a Word Art thing for this thread (it's around a dozen individual documents instead of the normal single document), but here's the obligatory I Got To Open A Figure photo: Look at him! Look at that shiny new Decade toy! That's Seihou Decade NeoDecadriver Version, with a $30 Decadriver accessory kit to give him the proper Driver. I'm not sure it comes across, but I tried to get him in his Brushing His Hands Off dismissive pose. (It maybe looks like he's clapping weird?) Tsukasa's signature pose is holding his Kamen Ride card in front of him, but I always picture Decade doing that hand-cleaning pose, where he's acting like he's beaten someone just by Henshining. I love it. I think that wraps it all up? Thank you so much for allowing me the chance to explore Kamen Rider Decade with you, and for continuing to be the best thing about being a Kamen Rider fan. I appreciate you taking this Journey through Decade with me!
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10-24-2021, 08:18 PM | #599 |
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I'm glad to see you had a good time with this show, despite some very obvious issues. You managed to find a lot of heart in it through this particular type of experience and I hope that continues with Zi-O!
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10-24-2021, 08:22 PM | #600 |
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Well, uh, hm. Hmmm. Let's just say that it's a lot less straightforward than Decade. You're gonna have A Time scheduling this and working this out to match what this thread was. At least there's basically no Showa or Sentai aside from a couple cute references? A trade-off for you, for sure
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