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07-19-2021, 12:56 AM | #151 |
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Here me out I got a crazy idea what about a Tokunation podcast? Y'know like just a bunch of forum users wanting to chat and discuss toku together. Even if I didn't participate much it was fun hearing a bunch of somewhat familar faces together in one setting like this. Don't mind me congrats on everybody here and It seemed like real blast eveybody putting this together.
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07-19-2021, 06:28 PM | #152 |
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Here me out I got a crazy idea what about a Tokunation podcast? Y'know like just a bunch of forum users wanting to chat and discuss toku together. Even if I didn't participate much it was fun hearing a bunch of somewhat familar faces together in one setting like this. Don't mind me congrats on everybody here and It seemed like real blast eveybody putting this together.
Glad you enjoyed watching along!
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07-21-2021, 07:42 PM | #153 |
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After discussing it over PMs withe Sh Ranger, we have decided on one final challenge.
This one being a tiebreaker between Sh Ranger and Androzani! Anyone else is free to participate, but the grand prize will only be handed out to one of these two members. Everyone else in the thread gets to help in another way, however. The challenge, should you choose to accept it, is a writing challenge, and one I decided to keep simple. The prompt is as follows: During the final episode of the LP, we all discussed how despite the plot not being bad overall, it definitely gets muddy in certain areas. Write me an essay discussing what you would've liked to have seen done differently, expanded upon, cut, what have you. Judging will be decided via not just my own reactions to each post, but everyone else's' as well. So, have at it.
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08-05-2021, 06:44 PM | #154 |
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Apologies if I made the final challenge too difficult. I can think of another, simpler one if you two so wish.
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08-06-2021, 07:53 AM | #155 |
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No, it’s okay. I’ve just had a lot on my mind that’s not really given me time to commit to it.
But if I had to give an answer, I’d probably go with making some of the more unclear aspects of the storyline more apparent. For instance, I would make something of a clear distinction between Aida and Ai. I’d also remove a few out of nowhere elements or add in a bit more foreshadowing (ie, showing Eternal revert to a black leather uniform after being defeated for good, even thought that doesn’t happen for the other clones). Bare in mind I’m mostly going off what I remember of the finale. It has been a while. |
08-06-2021, 08:49 AM | #156 |
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And I was just waiting for confirmation from my worthy opponent that this showdown is happening. So now here's my thoughts on the plot and how it could have been improved:
I would have liked more clarity regarding the sudden appearance of Lost Ankh, since he was absent during the Greeed and Zeus meeting, and why that Taka Medal was even left floating in Central Tower in the first place. It doesn't make much sense that his form is incomplete either, since the black-rimmed Core Medals should have compensated the way it did for the others. Proto Birth's appearance is kind of weird as well, not Date, but the Rider specifically. Kougami Foundation have had 10 years to upgrade that to the current model. However, I suppose that might be for the same reason that they sent Eiji to Sector City without any Medals, cause they're just that lazy. I like that belly flop move he does though. Make Aruto a character in the story, not just the gameplay. While he's still an important asset to the team, filling in for AI when she gets abducted, using his knowledge of artificial intelligence, it would have been nice if he at least had a development arc during one of the sectors, being the new guy. Just to establish Double and OOO as the wiser and more experienced sempai Riders by allowing them to pass on the morals they learned.
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08-06-2021, 09:42 AM | #157 |
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Hmm, thinking on it, I feel like both have good points in one aspect they mentioned each.
Androzani wanting Ai and Aida to be more distinct and clear and Aruto having a bit of an arc. --- My Participation into the ideas though since you did offer that any of us could do it (was waiting for the two actual contestants to go so I wouldn't really be giving out idea): Now see I'd go further than that. But lemme spin you a tale of what I'd probably do for this game and what might happen eventually because I might write a fanfic adaptation of Memory of Heroez for one of my stories. To be honest there's a lot of solid stuff already with W and OOO so I'll focus on Zero-One for most of this. -Given everyone's like unfamiliarity with Zero-One, I'd push this a step further, make it actual dimension hopping via Core Energy with him. And he follows not to look at cool AI stuff but to get back tech that got stolen from him suddenly. -That tech ends up making a few more Mini-bosses in the form of the various Magia, a recurring one that's the same one each time being Dodo. -Zero-One shows up at a much earlier interval and is part of the Pro-Ai club with Shotaro, wanting to believe in the good in Ai, also comment if Foundation X can be sued because of Ai's name. But this becomes a much more clear tension between Philip and Shotaro. -There's some bits of Aida resurfacing other than the one point at the end, to make things more suspicious. Though every time Zero-One tries to check Ai, he finds her programming is fine. Thus going towards the idea of Ai and Aida being two entities in one body, but Aida being dormant, slowly growing more awake the deeper into the island they go. -Aida resurfacing also causes some things to happen with the Humagears stolen, them turning into Magia and you notice that when you approach some at a certain point they've already destroyed what guards are in the area. -Muchiri is developed and while powerful, is not a suitable body to put Aida into despite the Core Energy. So Aida starts secretly having the Magia work to give her a proper body. -Zeus steals Ai as usual but we get a scene of him attempting to extract Aida's consciousness only for it to not be there. Cue increased attacks against the heroes due to his anger at not having Aida. -This is post series Zero-One, and we go full tilt with Terror's power where he incapacitates everyone but Zero-One powers through and kicks his ass because the terror field cannot hope to stand up against a Zero-One who lived through his whole series, especially the end. -Instead of Proto Birth showing up (it would be relegated to a form change for Goto) at the end, you'd have Vulcan showing up the backup Zero-One with the button pressing stuff. -Zeus' fight happens as normal, he tries to gather Core Energy but everyone is faster than he is and start damaging the Core Energy towers/siphoning them. Zeus Extreme is unable to happen as Muchiri takes the stage to stall so he can recover. Muchiri ends up getting fully taken out completely. -Aida shows up in probably a super robot body, maybe one of the late game Zero-One bosses and talks to Zeus about how he can't do anything without her, and that she'll be the one who ends the Riders so they can continue their work uninterrupted, having found a good use for Humagears with Core Energy. (No sudden betrayal here folks!) -You see Zero-One's going to grow very attached to Ai during all of this, and he's going to end up being angry at Aida for thinking of Ai as a tool and stuff and just tossing her aside in the end. So the clear structure of the fights end up being W vs. Zeus, OOO vs. Muchiri, and Zero-One vs Aida. -More apparent Realizing Hopper with Tajador and Gold Cyclone Xtreme Rider kick at the end against both Zeus and Aida, and yeah that's what I've got and wanted to share. |
08-09-2021, 07:25 PM | #158 |
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But if I had to give an answer, I’d probably go with making some of the more unclear aspects of the storyline more apparent. For instance, I would make something of a clear distinction between Aida and Ai. I’d also remove a few out of nowhere elements or add in a bit more foreshadowing (ie, showing Eternal revert to a black leather uniform after being defeated for good, even thought that doesn’t happen for the other clones).
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I would have liked more clarity regarding the sudden appearance of Lost Ankh, since he was absent during the Greeed and Zeus meeting, and why that Taka Medal was even left floating in Central Tower in the first place. It doesn't make much sense that his form is incomplete either, since the black-rimmed Core Medals should have compensated the way it did for the others.
Proto Birth's appearance is kind of weird as well, not Date, but the Rider specifically. Kougami Foundation have had 10 years to upgrade that to the current model. However, I suppose that might be for the same reason that they sent Eiji to Sector City without any Medals, cause they're just that lazy. I like that belly flop move he does though. Make Aruto a character in the story, not just the gameplay. While he's still an important asset to the team, filling in for AI when she gets abducted, using his knowledge of artificial intelligence, it would have been nice if he at least had a development arc during one of the sectors, being the new guy. Just to establish Double and OOO as the wiser and more experienced sempai Riders by allowing them to pass on the morals they learned. Lost Ankh definitely IS something done totally for fanservice; Would've been a neat idea to see what a totally complete Lost Ankh would've been like for sure. Quote:
My Participation into the ideas though since you did offer that any of us could do it (was waiting for the two actual contestants to go so I wouldn't really be giving out idea):
Now see I'd go further than that. But lemme spin you a tale of what I'd probably do for this game and what might happen eventually because I might write a fanfic adaptation of Memory of Heroez for one of my stories. To be honest there's a lot of solid stuff already with W and OOO so I'll focus on Zero-One for most of this. --- Judgment Day is not here just yet, so you guys wanna add anything more to your ideas, feel free!
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08-10-2021, 03:05 PM | #159 |
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Well since the other two suggested including more 01 elements, I guess I’ll have to bring back the long-necked Zeus idea I suggested in the LP proper and then figure out a way to integrate a character or two from the show proper. Kind of hard to include resurrected antagonists for a series where most of them survived the series.
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08-16-2021, 06:39 PM | #160 |
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Well all, after very careful consideration, it's been decided. The winner of the grand prize is...
Androzani84!!! Congrats my guy! If you want the prize, just message me on Discord. If not, then said prize will go to Sh Ranger. With that said, it is now time that I share with you all the final video I plan to record for this LP: Showing off some secret SD Card locations as well as what all of the Upgrades do! The audio is out of sync in some parts, but screw it I don't feel like rendering the video for a fourth time. With that, this thread is for all intents and purposes complete, and I'll be removing the link to it from my signature soon. Thank you all for making this project such a fun experience! If you want more community stuff, check out Die's' recent Decade thread. I know I will! Until next time!
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