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07-17-2018, 12:12 PM | #31 |
NinninComic
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Gentoku should not be used for comedy. For the others it feels natural since they were goofy or had funny traits from the very beginning, but Gentoku is way too much of a tragic / serious figure for me to accept that he plays dress-up with silly costumes or randomly starts to express himself through t-shirts.
It's an awful attempt to fit even more comedy into a show which had initially found its balance with seriousness and comedic belief, but has since been way too obnoxious with all the random stuff it pushes into my face. And furthermore it kinda ruins Gentoku as a character for me which I'm not okay with. Gentoku being goofy is one of his natural personality. When the show started and we got that "Henshin Lesson - Night Rogue" short video, it was implied that Gentoku's true personality was a funny one, but forced himself to be dead dark and serious. Granted it should have been seen in the show waaaaaay before now to make it relevant and not weird. But it's not coming out of nowhere and was intended from the start. |
07-17-2018, 12:23 PM | #32 |
Dai Shogun
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Gentoku being goofy is one of his natural personality.
When the show started and we got that "Henshin Lesson - Night Rogue" short video, it was implied that Gentoku's true personality was a funny one, but forced himself to be dead dark and serious. Granted it should have been seen in the show waaaaaay before now to make it relevant and not weird. But it's not coming out of nowhere and was intended from the start. Sorry but that doesn’t sound right. |
07-17-2018, 12:26 PM | #33 |
NinninComic
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I'm not here to debunk your statements. Chill dude. I'm just telling you it exists and doesn't appear out of nowhere. And even if it's short videos, they have to be written. So it counts.
They had this idea as far as October. Fact. |
07-17-2018, 12:30 PM | #34 |
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Yeah Gentoku's supposed to be more relaxed as we know that he likes karaoke, eating strawberry sundaes and as seen in the first episode, he hit on Sawa. Saying it doesn't fit Gentoku is false. However, the fact it's such a drastic change and the biggest hints aren't from the show means the criticism is still valid, albeit on a different level, because when you know someone for so long and they do things that are so different from what you're used to 40 episodes is, it's ridiculously jarring
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07-17-2018, 12:38 PM | #35 |
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The jokes they’re making in this short are meta, in the sense that they're filming an infomercial of sorts, and the humor Gentoku uses is way different form his current personality. In fact, he isn't using any humor at all, he's just making devilish faces really close to the camera and the comedy comes from the cameramen interrupting him. How any of this is an explanation or hint at Gentoku originally being a fashion fanatic with a lighthearted personality is beyond me. Quote:
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07-17-2018, 09:26 PM | #36 |
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I personally think they would have been better off using him as a straight man unable to understanding the joking around of the others. In some ways, if they had done it right, it would have been even funnier.
Oh well, no season's perfect. |
07-17-2018, 09:33 PM | #37 |
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Hey, the jokes around my locale is that Gentoku and Kazumi had been kicked in the head too much by Evolt and Utsumi they have some screws loose now. They had also been exposed to much nebula gas, that's another sanity instabilizer there.
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07-17-2018, 10:58 PM | #38 |
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07-18-2018, 12:12 AM | #39 |
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I just watched that "Henshin Lesson"-thingie and what you're trying to say makes even less sense now.
The jokes they’re making in this short are meta, in the sense that they're filming an infomercial of sorts, and the humor Gentoku uses is way different form his current personality. In fact, he isn't using any humor at all, he's just making devilish faces really close to the camera and the comedy comes from the cameramen interrupting him. How any of this is an explanation or hint at Gentoku originally being a fashion fanatic with a lighthearted personality is beyond me. Liking karaoke, eating sweets (please remind me when this happened by the way, I don't remember it) and hitting on a woman in a really evil and creepy fashion isn't explaining this:
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07-18-2018, 03:09 AM | #40 |
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Honestly.......I kinda like that Gentoku's "natural" personality is one of a total goofball and not the edgelord we expected him to be.
I mean yeah, one could make the argument that it undermines everything that happened with his dad plus his role as a legitimately threatening villain in the middle of the show, but I'm actually glad we didn't get 15 episodes of him moping about his dad and being an emo kid like Batman. Plus, it seems like Sento and Misora are playing the straight men to this otherwise wacky cast of characters, so it's not necessary for Gentoku's to play that role. As far as Kazumi....come on, he's Otoya Kurenai. I wouldn't expect anything less than him swooning over his female allies every minute.
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